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Kalea Sprite

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Draco Burnz said :
Kalea Sprite said :


Other holiday rewards have been returning, various holiday emotes and items such as the Snow Globe have been released again and again, etc.


Just because some have doesn't mean all have to.

Plus have you forgotten how upset ppl got when they did get rereleased?

Even more reason not to do this.
Yet, it shows that they do, in fact, release holiday emotes and items again, so it wouldn't be unusual if they released the Partyhats again.

With every update, there are supporters and those that would be upset and throw temper tantrums.

With Partyhats, there are very few that would throw temper tantrums because there simply isn't that many Partyhats in the game.

It's likely that only flip/merch/investors of Partyhats would be upset because releasing the Partyhats again will help nerf the wealth that they leech from other players.

In other words, flip/merch/investing of Partyhats is an overpowered leeching activity and it must be nerfed.

So, this is, in fact, another reason to support Partyhats on Treasure Hunter.

For The Win, Support Partyhats on Treasure Hunter because it will prevent leeching and restore the cheerful balance to the game! :D
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21-Aug-2019 15:43:56

Draco Burnz
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Kalea Sprite said :


With Partyhats, there are very few that would throw temper tantrums because there simply isn't that many Partyhats in the game.

It's likely that only flip/merch/investors of Partyhats would be upset because releasing the Partyhats again will help nerf the wealth that they leech from other players.


Uhh, wht?

Why would anyone get upset due to the low amount of phats?

Plus just because you want one doesn't mean you need to ruin other ppls way of making money.

You keep saying flippers/merchers are "evil" yet from this thread it seems like you lot are the one that are "evil".

I mean they aren't doing anything to you yet you have to ruin what they earned and worked for just because of jealousy.
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21-Aug-2019 21:03:14

Kalea Sprite

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Draco Burnz said :
Kalea Sprite said :


With Partyhats, there are very few that would throw temper tantrums because there simply isn't that many Partyhats in the game.

It's likely that only flip/merch/investors of Partyhats would be upset because releasing the Partyhats again will help nerf the wealth that they leech from other players.


Uhh, wht?

Why would anyone get upset due to the low amount of phats?

Plus just because you want one doesn't mean you need to ruin other ppls way of making money.

You keep saying flippers/merchers are "evil" yet from this thread it seems like you lot are the one that are "evil".

I mean they aren't doing anything to you yet you have to ruin what they earned and worked for just because of jealousy.

Uhh, are you even reading what you type?

Clearly, you've not even read what I've written or you've completely misunderstood these posts.

I've never claimed that flip/merch/investors are "evil."

However, I have claimed that the activity of flip/merch/investing is overpowered, and prone manipulation, abuse and scams, etc., and it must be nerfed.

Partyhats on Treasure Hunter is a good way to nerf flip/merch/investing of Partyhats.

Your emotional arguments of the issue (people are upset, people are jealous, etc.) are generally irrelevant because it doesn't address the problem that flip/merch/investing Partyhats is grotesquely overpowered, prone to manipulation and must be nerfed.

That is, Partyhats on Treasure Hunter is the solution balance the game by nerfing the overpowered nature of flip/merch/investing Partyhats.

For The Win, Support Partyhats on Treasure Hunter, it's the right thing to do! :D
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21-Aug-2019 21:35:41

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Kalea is definitely not wrong about the supremely overpowered gains that come from this Entirely AFK activity.

Just think, just because they own a partyhat and are already the richest people in the game, doesn't mean they should have any chance of making single trades that profit additional X00m per trade. All they need to do is post in the marketplace one thread saying "[S] X partyhat, PM me" And wait for somebody to message them, so they can haggle a price higher than they paid, then invest that in a different color that looks most likely to rise again.

They already know how to earn top tier wealth as it is, being high tier PvM and such, even more standard flips that with their wealth could pay off greatly with the more invested, such as those people who use to follow Chessy back in the day. They obviously did these methods to reach their partyhat in the first place, right?

If they could invest heavily in a raising item and make profit, good, go for it. But no single item and single tradeoffs should profit as much as partyhats do.

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She is also correct that the forums keeping track of trades have no legitimate way to prove any trades truly happened. It's not uncommon for a partyhat owner to know another partyhat owner, or another rich player with billions to simply put in the trade for a picture. Manipulation in this form is easy for anybody in a team willing to occasionally, artificially raise the average price for their own gains.

Which leads to higher average costs in the forums which is the only place for people to go to get an estimate range. There's no actual regulations, and many trades are not involved in the pricing.

Partyhats SHOULD be lower than they are, but no legitimate lower trades get logged in the averaging system tracked by players.
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22-Aug-2019 16:43:38

Draco Burnz
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Kalea Sprite said :

However, I have claimed that the activity of flip/merch/investing is overpowered, and prone manipulation, abuse and scams, etc., and it must be nerfed.



Nah the only thing that's "overpowered" is this idea.

Being able to get something for nearly "free" that most others had to work for shouldn't ever happen.

Especially just because ppl cbb to get them as they are.
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22-Aug-2019 21:31:00

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Kalea Sprite said :
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Do I think it's fine to release partyhats again? Yes.

You fail to understand that the achievement is not ruined, only the ability to brag with it.


it is 100% ruined. they didnt need to do anything. just needed to wait till this update the phats would also crash a hell of a lot. even if none are the same colours we have now.

again ruining the time and effort of people making bills to get them

You seem to misunderstand the situation.

The current Partyhat market is already ruined by the flip/merch/investors as some artificially pump or dump the prices in order to maximize the wealth they leech from everyone else.

By releasing the Partyhats on Treasure Hunter, the corruption and abuse associated with flip/merch/investing will be nerfed and this will correct the markets and increase the cheerfulness all throughout the community.

For The Win, Support Partyhats on Treasure Hunter, it's the right thing to do!!! :D


this just made me chuckle.

for one you missed the whole reasoning to what im saying. sure phats have been maniped awesome. im not talking about prices (to an extent) im talking about effort for players getting these items. that will be ruined for the players that have spent however many hours getting them thousands of them most likely
which will ruin the achievement of obtaining one. to obtain such wealth takes dedication and effort and persistence. so for the people to have an item to show that. will be ruined with this.
if this was to happen i wouldnt bother aiming to get a phat as the joy of owning such an iconic prestige item would be meaningless. and that what this would do. take something iconic and destroy it to be worthless.
again look at phats in osrs...
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22-Aug-2019 21:58:27

Kalea Sprite

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Tenebri said :
this just made me chuckle.

Yeah, your post made me chuckle, you've confirmed that the prices have been manipulated and that somehow equates to an achievement.

Everyone should be well aware that the prices of the Partyhats are absolutely inaccurate and are very likely to have been skewed to favor the whims of flip/merch/investing.

That is, people choose to take the risk of spending that much on a paper hat and so they should recognize that it's their choice to take that risk of losing it.

The markets are somewhat similar to enter the Wilderness, be prepared to lose your stuff.

Whatusaytome said :
Kalea is definitely not wrong about the supremely overpowered gains that come from this Entirely AFK activity.

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She is also correct that the forums keeping track of trades have no legitimate way to prove any trades truly happened.

Indeed, that's a pretty good summary Whatusaytome, thanks! :D

For The Win, Support Partyhats on Treasure Hunter, it's the right thing to do! :D
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23-Aug-2019 00:22:17

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And again youve taken what ive said and thrown it away and added your own meaning

What ive said is earning 8billion gp to own a phat is an achievement. Whats seperate is yes they have been manipped by a small community. That doesnt take away the achievement of others earning billions to own one

And thats pretty much why you want this you cant or dont want to achieve that feat. So instead want the easy way out and put on th. To manip the prices to be lower.

See how that works cupcake. They are 2 seperate things the manips and achievement of owning one

Lets look at when this did happen with spirit shields when sof first came out. Remember how it ruined them? Even though they were lucky varient. Yet you want to do this with the more prestigious of items in the game??? And you think its a good idea damn


And cute confirmation bias fallacy at its finest. ♡
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Kalea Sprite

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Tenebri said :
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What ive said is earning 8billion gp to own a phat is an achievement. Whats seperate is yes they have been manipped by a small community. That doesnt take away the achievement of others earning billions to own one

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What about the people who invested BILLIONS in rsgp on phats? Do they get compensated? Or is all there hard work flushed down the toilet?

They will learn that investing BILLIONS in paper hats was not a wise decision. This is good because then they will probably not make the same mistake again IRL!
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Ppl with Phats and they prize it..they make me think of...that guy who owns that one old gun model.

Example: It's like a guy who owns a old model Colt Python .357 magnum. Colt no longer produce these Pythons. A good Colt Python .357 these days goes for $3000 to even $5000 depending which model you want.

So, compare and contrast. These Phat owners and Colt 357 owners all would be similar if this happens.

Jagex re-release phats back for a certain amount of time. Current Phat owners will complain and toss in their line of defense.

Colt re-manufacture Colt Python .357 for a certain amount of time. Current Colt Python .357 owners will complain and toss in their line of defense.

In the end. It is our fault for turning this "thing" into a prized item and decide to charge a lot of money for it. A phat was suppose to be a fun item to have and be with your rs friends. A Colt Python .357 is suppose to be for self defense and practice shooting with your friends. Instead, WE, all turn them into a big money item.

In other words, Partyhats are simply a cosmetic holiday item to be shared with the whole community!

For The Win, Support Partyhats on Treasure Hunter, it's the right thing to do! :D
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