Whatusaytome
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~ And it's impossible to just count how many pictures of accepted trades there are in each thread with people confirming they legitimately bought it ~
So if it's impossible to count, you've again confirmed that the alleged prices of the Partyhats are inaccurate.
How do you know that the trades occurred?
Check it out, I traded a bunch of mint cakes for 5m each, (on the side I split the cash with a group of accomplices), many people readily come forward and confirm each trade. Other unsuspecting who aren't in on the gambit take the bait and buy mint cakes for 6m, 7m, 8m, billions, etc. While the flip/merch/investor group quietly unloads their items at their desired sell high prices.
How do you know that their trades where "legitimate?"
Also, where are you gonna post your invisible "research?"
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How about you ask Jagex yourself why they haven't stopped the price tracking threads.
Ask them why.
I've shown you where to go to do the same research I've done. You are just raging at me now without even trying to convince me.
EVERY TRADEABLE ITEM IS PRONE TO MANIPULATION THE WAY YOU EXPLAIN IT. Almost no items are sold by a store and almost none of them that are match their stores prices. Are you telling me this whole game is manipulated?
Or are you just mad about partyhats because of the success derived from them. They've had 18 years to be "meant to be free" but they arent.
Its impossible to count because there's 14000 posts, most of which are trades confirmed, most of which WITH PICTURES OF THE ACCEPTED TRADE! The rest are charts made to include the new trades into the average price ranges for the month.
Why dont you look at the 6 existing threads and research it just like I did?
Quit crying and complaining just because I posted legitimate evidence that tracking is NOT being done wrongly. Just know I support it being made more accurate, which WILL LOWER THE PRICES!
Partyhats are not a care free market like mint cakes. Again, you compare items with no relevance to partyhats. You scam a person with mint cakes but the person buying the partyhat will always pay only what he's willing to pay based on what he's earned and what the owner/seller asks.
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Whatusaytome
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~ PICTURES ~
Especially when shouted, can be fabricated, only in-game reports can be verified by Jagex.
So, I'm surprised that you are:
Whatusaytome
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~ mad ~ crying and complaining ~
Why are you mad, why do you cry and complain, why are you so toxic?
Your toxic postings appear again to confirm that you are not sincerely discussing the topic.
But, I think you're triggered because you know that I'm right on the money.
Whatusaytome
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~ mint cakes ~
I'm surprised that you didn't recognize that "mint cakes" is slang for "Partyhats."
Flip/merch/investors of Partyhats allegedly leech a "mint offa'dose cakes."
The question is who leeched the "mint" and who are the "cakes" they leeched it from?
Whatusaytome
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~ research ~
You haven't posted any "research."
Whatusaytome
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~ My research is on the activity of the forum marketplace, and you can't visually look at it like a book of knowledge ~
Oh wait, your "research" is invisible.
So, with the ring of visibility I see that your invisible "research" actually agrees with my view.
Your invisible "research" agrees that flip/merch/investing Partyhats is overpowered, it must be nerfed, and Partyhats on Treasure Hunter is a cost effective solution to address the issue.
Your invisible "research" also confirms that there was an alleged record high of a 29b Blue Partyhat which suggests that a group of flip/merch/investors "minted" billions from a bunch of "cakes"
So, we agree flip/merch/investing Partyhats is overpowered and must be nerfed.
Partyhats on Treasure Hunter is a cost effective solution to address this issue and provides many other benefits such as strengthened funding to help Jagex reward all the hard working JMods with pay raises!
For The Win, Support Partyhats on Treasure Hunter, it's the right thing to do!
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Flipping margins are high because the prices are high, yes they can be lowered and made more accurate. NO, YOUR IDEAS DO NOT FIX THIS.
I'm sincere in saying you will destroy the items and you won't accept anything that anybody who has ever posted on this thread has said. Only Jokku is on your side because it's his suggestion.
I've supported refreshing the market by making these extremely rare prizes on TH. You don't like it. You think they should be common and cheap and worthless. You want to ruin anybody who has ever worked for one. You want to ruin everybody who already has one.
You call me toxic for trying to defend partyhats which have been rare since the release of runescape 2. You call me toxic for taking it more seriously than you.
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Whatusaytome
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~ You call me toxic for taking it more seriously than you.
You are being toxic, you're here ranting and raving, shouting and bashing people, calling people names, yada yada yada, etc., etc.
You're not even acknowledging that your invisible "research" agrees with the view that Partyhats on Treasure Hunter is the right thing to do.
If, however, you have visible "research," let's see it.
For The Win, Support Partyhats on Treasure Hunter, it's the right thing to do!
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What do you expect me to post then? When you wont take anything I say, do you expect me to say the same shit? Do you expect me to be happy that you dismiss every argument that says partyhats are not fabricated to your believed extent? Theres no fact in the chart you showed me, but Jagex has done nothing to stop the ones I've shown you that have continued for over 106000 posts.
When I say I've shown you my sources, and you wont look at them, do you want me to post something else? Go to each and every discontinued items status thread, follow some patterns, follow frequent users. It's quite interesting.
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Whatusaytome
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~ When I say I've shown you my sources, and you wont look at them, do you want me to post something else? ~
I have looked at your sources, and from the observable information that's available, there appears to be a pattern that suggests that flip/merch/investing is an overpowered afk leeching mechanic that's prone to abuse, fabricated price listings that suit the will of the flip/merch/investors, manipulation (intentional or unintentional), etc.
Hence, there are many ways to address those sorts of issues.
Ultimately, it's up to Jagex to investigate this sort of stuff and balance the game accordingly.
These concerns have been noted and I believe Jagex will do what's in the best interest of their products.
So, it doesn't really matter if we agree or disagree, at the end of the day, it's up to Jagex.
However, Partyhats on Treasure Hunter appears to be one of the most cost effective ways to address those sorts of issues, plus Partyhats on Treasure Hunter provides many other benefits.
For The Win, Support Partyhats on Treasure, it's the right thing to do!
'o.0'
Explain those benefits, and explain the negatives. If you can.
I don't think you see the whole picture. Obviously you won't accept anything I say that suggests the price tracking is effective albeit not 100%. All you've done is say the rich people can't make money off of their assets because its abuse.
Jagex will make the decision, which will be the least damaging and only if theres enough positives that outweigh any negatives.
Making them common has too many negatives that you keep ignoring.
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Whatusaytome
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Explain those benefits ~
I've explained the benefits of Partyhats on Treasure Hunter throughout the thread, feel free to browse and read the entire thread.
For The Win, Support Partyhats on Treasure Hunter, it's the right thing to do!!!
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