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Sharp-shin

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Tom Grey said :
Wow your seller mercher buyer diagram is the dumbest thing I’ve ever seen to say that prices are manipulated.

Real world example:
Seller wants to sell 1,000,000 apples. Buyer wants to buy 5 apples. Supermarket (a merchant in your case) connects the two to make the transaction happen. Without the supermarket the apples will rot and the buyer would starve. The commission they get is reciprocal to the risk of not being able to sell the goods.

Runescape example:
Staker wants to sell a partyhat at 2am for 10b. Buyers at 2am are minimal. Buyers at 10am want to buy a partyhat for 10b. An intermediary (mercher in your example) connects the two to make a transaction happen. The commission they get is reciprocal to the risk of not being able to sell the goods.

If you think this is manipulation of prices, there is no help left.

Didn’t read the rest of the post because they are usually just garbage arguments anyway.
Oh my god, those evil supermarkets are manipulating apples, we need to rerelease them immediately! :P Err, wait a tick...

Nah but seriously speaking, I think there's a certain difference between those two examples that you didn't highlight enough: in the supermarket example, the apple seller risks not selling some of his apples at all, whilst in the partyhat example, the partyhat seller (the staker) risks not having the cash flow to make more money than if he waited to sell it with the best profit margin. And that's a real thing: weighing time and money.

If you have the time to actively play with your money, and can make more money within the same amount of time by selling your partyhat cheaper than if you waited, then it makes sense to sell it to someone who then sells it slightly more expensive to another person. It doesn't mean that you were manipulated, because it allowed you to make more money yourself. Otherwise, you could just be passive yourself: wait.
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29-Mar-2019 12:33:40

Kalea Sprite

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Konota said :
Wittz said :
Go ahead and put my vote down as being against this. Thank you. 😊
Yep after reading 1 post above you, it only strengthen the illogical reasons they 'try' to come up with. lol. I agee with Tom. Who would've thought :o
Your slander is obvious because you haven't addressed or attempted to challenge any of the reasons to support Partyhats on Treasure Hunter.

Therefore, the reasons to support Partyhats on Treasure Hunter stand on solid ground.

If you wish to explain your position, a respectable discussion is welcome.

Plus, check out these great ideas! :D

Catalog of suggestions about Partyhats on Treasure Hunter:

1. All of the original Partyhats on Treasure Hunter

2. Christmas Crackers on Treasure Hunter because that's where Partyhats originated

3. Addition of new colours and Partyhats with sparkly effect

4. Reboot of Yelps Wheel Of Fortune, The Wheel Partyhats Of Fortune

5. Dong U Dead suggested super rare "Diamond" category for Partyhats on Treasure Hunter

6.
Whatusaytome
(and others) inspired the suggestion of a tradeable item that may be won on Treaure Hunter which can be combined to make Partyhats (akin to "Salvage" and "Alchemist's Amulet Fragments" )

7. Jokku23 received news from The Ports that many of the recruits had lost party hats to shark attacks. This led to the development of Treasure Hunter "Partyhat Maps" which may be won on Treasure Hunter or traded to those who are inventive and aren't afraid of sharks.

( Please post any additional suggestions or corrections if there are any errors or omissions regarding credits or suggestions, thanks! )

Support Partyhats on Treasure Hunter! :D

WOO!! :D

+1 'o.0'
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29-Mar-2019 12:58:19

Kalea Sprite

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Sharp-shin said :
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: in the supermarket example, the apple seller risks not selling some of his apples at all, whilst in the partyhat example, the partyhat seller (the staker) risks not having the cash flow to make more money than if he waited to sell it with the best profit margin. And that's a real thing: weighing time and money.
If you like them apples, there are a near infinite amount of apples available in Runescape and, it's possible to increase the amount of Partyhats in Runescape with Treasure Hunter.

Another real thing is that your comment about "the staker" taking "risks" appears to be on a similar course as "commission staking." So, increasing the supply of Partyhats with Treasure Hunter helps prevent that issue.

" Weighing time and money," it's clear that flip/merch/investing Partyhats is an overpowered afk activity, the price projections are prone to fabrication and manipulation, so increasing the supply of Partyhats with Treasure Hunter helps address this issue.

Increasing the supply of Partyhats with Treasure Hunter increases the competitiveness of this market, it's a cost effective way to balance the game and bring the cheerfulness of the happy holidays' partyhat parties back to the great majority of players! :D

So, these are additional reasons to support Partyhats on Treasure Hunter! :D 'o.0'
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29-Mar-2019 13:58:23

Tom Grey

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Those are not the same examples. Same examples in real world would be: apple is making billions of dollars. Apple is a huge company that you need billions of dollars to buy. You don’t have billions of dollars. You don’t get to own apple. End of story.

29-Mar-2019 22:14:19

Kalea Sprite

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Tom Grey said :
Those are not the same examples. Same examples in real world would be: apple is making billions of dollars. Apple is a huge company that you need billions of dollars to buy. You don’t have billions of dollars. You don’t get to own apple. End of story.
With all due respect dude, you're comparing apples with oranges, the topic is actually about Partyhats on Treasure Hunter and that's not an apple or an orange.

Even still, with your example, Apple is a company just like Jagex is a company but we're not talking about putting companies on Treasure Hunter, putting iPhones on Treasure Hunter is like totally off-topic.

The topic is about a cosmetic pixel item, Partyhats on Treasure Hunter.

But, it you wanna hang on to your apples: just like Apple makes iPhones and Mac Books, etc., Jagex makes digital items in Runescape, etc.

So, if you think about it you can get a decent MacBook for like less than $5000 which means that Partyhats in Treasure Hunter should be about 5000 gold pieces.

Therefore, putting lots and lots of Partyhats on Treasure Hunter will help bring the price in line with the price of a decent MacBook which is about $5000 and comparably 5000 gold pieces for a Partyhat.

So, the reasons to support Partyhat on Treasure Hunter are solid and irrefutable, it's in everyone's interest to support Partyhats on Treasure Hunter because it helps Jagex maintain and develop this awesome game for everyone to enjoy! :D 'o.0'
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29-Mar-2019 23:15:29

Tom Grey

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Ok, good example, a macbook, tool that helps you make money. If you are dirt poor and live on food stamps you won’t be buying MacBooks for 5000, no matter how festive they make you. Should MacBooks be sold at a dollar store, no.

30-Mar-2019 10:28:01

Kalea Sprite

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Tom Grey said :
Ok, good example, a macbook, tool that helps you make money. If you are dirt poor and live on food stamps you won’t be buying MacBooks for 5000, no matter how festive they make you. Should MacBooks be sold at a dollar store, no.
Partyhats are like 18 years old, right?

Old computers are generally just given away for free or thrown away (in fact, I've personally received hand-me-down electronics from my older brother and I eventually just disposed of them at the recyclers)

So, you could probably find a decade old MacBook at the dollar store, or a pawn shop, for a couple bucks, you could probably even get one for free.

But, the topic isn't about MacBooks or computers.

The topic here is Partyhats on Treasure Hunter. And, check it out, you could alch a Partyhat and get exactly 0 gold pieces, which means that Partyhats are supposed to be given away for free.

While I'm in favor of Partyhats being released again at an upcoming holiday event, Partyhats on Treasure Hunter is also a great way to release the Partyhats again because it also help Jagex strengthen their funding.

So, again, the topic is about Partyhats on Treasure Hunter and there are solid reasons for supporting this awesome idea because it's a multiple win! :D

For the win, support Partyhats on Treasure Hunter! :D 'o.0'
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30-Mar-2019 15:23:35

TheSpur8
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Tom Grey said :
The topic here is Partyhats on Treasure Hunter. And, check it out, you could alch a Partyhat and get exactly 0 gold pieces, which means that Partyhats are supposed to be given away for free.

You logic is fatally flawed but gotta love a trier. Since when has the high alch value ever been linked with the trade value, right? So Noxious scythe should be able to bought for 750k.
Nearly everything has a different high alch value to it's trade amount. There is no correlation. But please keep trying.

I love this thread, as it shows those that have and those that have not. You want something because others have it you are jealous, simple. Jealousy is a cruel emotion but please keep posting, this is fun. Will never happen.

30-Mar-2019 17:45:44

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