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Dilbert2001
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Lego Miester said :
I Lack Heart said :
Due to several countries investigation of lootboxes, which treasure hunter is, the pay to win era of runescape might be closing to its end. You can tell Jagex have been cashing in the gambling addicts for the past year, knowing that it is too good to be true, so instead of once a month promotion TH turned into 2 promotions a week to ensure there is something you have to spend your money on or you will miss out.

Australia has investigated that loot boxes are psychological gambling, gateway to problem gambling and this is why it is so profitable for gaming companies. It is like selling drugs as postal service to rehab center patients, you dont see your customer but the insane amounts of money is flowing in works as a motivator, out of sight, out of mind.

I thought it was 3 a week, in a cycle so they're up 24/7.

Still obviously a problem.

Don't see any problems whether it was 3 or 7 promotions a week. Even Australia has no problem with loot boxes whatsoever because "gambling" simulations like loot boxes are not illegal gambling. Skin gambling is illegal gambling. However, it will only be illegal if the games allow players to gamble on 3rd party casinos offsite. Furthermore, the Aussie government said even for illegal gambling they are not going to knock down the door of their garage to arrest them. They will only go after the real larger scale casinos.

23-Sep-2019 19:04:16 - Last edited on 23-Sep-2019 19:50:03 by Dilbert2001

Impatience

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I Lack Heart said :
Due to several countries investigation of lootboxes, which treasure hunter is, the pay to win era of runescape might be closing to its end.

No it won't. There's pay to win on Solomon's general store in the form of aura's and nothing stopping them from adding more pay to win if they can't continue with TH.

Solomon's is better than TH since it isn't gambling, but it's not all that much better, since it also (ab)uses psychological tricks to get people to spend more than they want to in the form of Runecoin packages. Most gamers are simply so used to game companies utilizing these principles that you've been completely desensitized to them.

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> ADD COSMETIC FREE WORLD

Yes, please! If only they'd poll suggestions like these...

24-Sep-2019 16:38:51 - Last edited on 24-Sep-2019 16:40:09 by Impatience

S 1 M O N
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People need to come to terms with just how piss poor the UK is at enforcing or prosecuting ANYTHING. Or sure they'll write it into law as that's the easy bit - but that'll be as far as it goes. Look at the porn age verification legislation, months overdue. Numerous examples of shoddy attempts to prosecute business malpractice (E.G Tesco).

It's all just hot air.

25-Sep-2019 06:17:39

Tagakhlo
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S 1 M O N said :
Look at the porn age verification legislation, months overdue.

Considering how badly thought-out that legislation is - putting vast numbers of people at much greater risk of their credit card details being compromised - I would be thankful that the British government is showing the good sense not to rush into what was a bad idea to begin with.

However, it's easy enough for the United Kingdom's government to decide that people in Britain can't play any number of online games. Aside from a trade complaint by the United States government, there's not enough of a downside to restrain them. Jagex being a company based in Britain, it won't have a choice when it comes to full compliance.

Of course, there is a bright side. Perhaps everyone in Britain currently playing any of a number of popular on-line games will switch to RuneScape if the U.S.-based games companies decide the UK market is small enough that it can be ignored.

25-Sep-2019 14:15:59

I Lack Heart
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Oh well hello there, isn't it another 6 TH events daily for 4hours each to ensure everyone has something to spend their next months rent on. They are really loving this event aren't they? Next event will be '24 different events, one each hour, limited edition.'

And when changes are looming behind the corner Jagex just gonna go full money milking mode and put rares on TH for the last promotion to go out with a banging revenue.

25-Sep-2019 14:16:33

Tagakhlo
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Impatience said :
There's pay to win on Solomon's general store in the form of aura's

It is certainly true that auras are not strictly cosmetic - they definitely do affect progress in-game.

However, you can't buy auras with RuneCoins. You can only buy them with loyalty points. You get loyalty points for the amount of time you have been a member. Yes, membership costs money, but it's a fixed amount; you can't pump more money into the game to get more auras sooner.

So I don't think it's really fair to call auras an example of "pay to win" as opposed to "pay to play".

25-Sep-2019 14:24:31

Sharp-shin

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Tagakhlo said :
Impatience said :
There's pay to win on Solomon's general store in the form of aura's

It is certainly true that auras are not strictly cosmetic - they definitely do affect progress in-game.

However, you can't buy auras with RuneCoins. You can only buy them with loyalty points. You get loyalty points for the amount of time you have been a member. Yes, membership costs money, but it's a fixed amount; you can't pump more money into the game to get more auras sooner.

So I don't think it's really fair to call auras an example of "pay to win" as opposed to "pay to play".
It's not runecoins, but you can still buy the mahjarrat aura straight up with bonds:

https://runescape.wiki/w/Mahjarrat_aura

So even if auras in general cannot be bought like P2W MTX normally would be, Jagex has set a new awful precedent with the mahjarrat aura.
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25-Sep-2019 14:30:47

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