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Torgi Nudho
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I've literally shown you that Belgium is and has taking real actions, I've proven it to you. Why do you think players can no longer loot/ open boxes in CSGO in Belgium?
I don't know what else I can do here, bud...
You have not given me any proof whatsoever to substantiate any of your claims... I have done nothing but.
+ It will be up to the High Court (UK) to decide whichever it will be, since the UK is just contradicting themselves at this point.
It is totally nonsense to cry "Hugh Court" when nobody brings up anything at all. As I mentioned many times already, why don't anybody call the governments if they think Jagex or anybody else break the law? Simple. Because they did and failed. Like this one:
https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2017-10-11-are-loot-boxes-gambling
For those who are naive, people have tried hard against Jagex and TH, but failed miserably. Somebody claimed to be a student in Australia asked the Aussie Government to investigate Jagex too but also failed miserably.
I've literally shown you that Belgium is and has taking real actions, I've proven it to you. Why do you think players can no longer loot/ open boxes in CSGO in Belgium?
I don't know what else I can do here, bud...
You have not given me any proof whatsoever to substantiate any of your claims... I have done nothing but.
+ It will be up to the High Court (UK) to decide whichever it will be, since the UK is just contradicting themselves at this point.
It is totally nonsense to cry "Hugh Court" when nobody brings up anything at all. As I mentioned many times already, why don't anybody call the governments if they think Jagex or anybody else break the law? Simple. Because they did and failed. Like this one:
https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2017-10-11-are-loot-boxes-gambling
Loot box systems are gambling in my view," Griffiths says. Griffiths penned an academic paper that explores whether RuneScape's Squeal of Fortune and Treasure Hunter features should be considered gambling.
So why hasn't any authority called Jagex - or any other video game publisher or developer whose game includes loot boxes - out for encouraging gambling? Why hasn't a regulatory body placed an appropriate age-rating on these games?
Eurogamer asked the Gambling Commission whether it was looking into the issue of gambling and loot boxes in video games. We were told "esports and digital currencies have been a significant focus for us in recent years", with a spokesperson directing us towards a position paper published in March titled "Virtual currencies, esports and social casino gaming" - specifically, paragraphs 3.17, 3.18 and 3.20.
So why hasn't any authority called Jagex - or any other video game publisher or developer whose game includes loot boxes - out for encouraging gambling? Why hasn't a regulatory body placed an appropriate age-rating on these games?
Eurogamer asked the Gambling Commission whether it was looking into the issue of gambling and loot boxes in video games. We were told "esports and digital currencies have been a significant focus for us in recent years", with a spokesperson directing us towards a position paper published in March titled "Virtual currencies, esports and social casino gaming" - specifically, paragraphs 3.17, 3.18 and 3.20.
For those who are naive, people have tried hard against Jagex and TH, but failed miserably. Somebody claimed to be a student in Australia asked the Aussie Government to investigate Jagex too but also failed miserably.
23-Aug-2019 22:06:56 - Last edited on 23-Aug-2019 22:08:00 by Dilbert2001
Torgi Nudho
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- If no one is mentioning it, why does the UK government express their own thoughts on the matter, exactly? Seems odd to just start talking as a governmental institution about something no one is talking about, doesn't it?
- I'm not from the UK so I am not sure, but if a law is contradicting reality, then that law needs to be changed, which needs to be revisited by a certain governmental institutions, I assumed this was the High Court in this case.
- I'll trust research published by the chairman of a Gambling Commission over a 'video game journalist'
Why don't you go ask the governments yourself like that UK student and the other Aussie student who posted in Reddit? Shrug! We know the results already. The governments have clearly told us the results.
- If no one is mentioning it, why does the UK government express their own thoughts on the matter, exactly? Seems odd to just start talking as a governmental institution about something no one is talking about, doesn't it?
- I'm not from the UK so I am not sure, but if a law is contradicting reality, then that law needs to be changed, which needs to be revisited by a certain governmental institutions, I assumed this was the High Court in this case.
- I'll trust research published by the chairman of a Gambling Commission over a 'video game journalist'
Why don't you go ask the governments yourself like that UK student and the other Aussie student who posted in Reddit? Shrug! We know the results already. The governments have clearly told us the results.
23-Aug-2019 22:19:24
xox Lola xox
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Time they finish regulating they will wish it was gambling.
Nobody is "regulating" anything on the internet. Obviosly, they will never finish anything they don't even start...
Like in the UK, they tried to deal with internet toxicity and trolling. However, nobody is willing to pay the bill. All they can do almost 10 years later is to release a green paper to call for voluntary levies with the video game companies paying for their own expenses. What "regulation"? No. I guess what they talked to the true power with >9000 IQ, it got deleted.
Time they finish regulating they will wish it was gambling.
Nobody is "regulating" anything on the internet. Obviosly, they will never finish anything they don't even start...
Like in the UK, they tried to deal with internet toxicity and trolling. However, nobody is willing to pay the bill. All they can do almost 10 years later is to release a green paper to call for voluntary levies with the video game companies paying for their own expenses. What "regulation"? No. I guess what they talked to the true power with >9000 IQ, it got deleted.
23-Aug-2019 22:49:47
You're claiming 'governments', yet I've only seen the UK state the same you're claiming
(which is contradictory to its own laws, so I'm positive something has to change over the pond)
- Other governments (which actually have publicly stated so), like the US, are actually looking into refreshing/updating their regulations when it comes to 'online' gambling. Which they should, because most laws were written decades ago in a style out of this age, so it seems only logical that new regulations will come, perhaps not as extensive as many think it will be. But it does seem that Belgium is setting a tone/trend for other countries (which I stated above) to follow, perhaps not as severe.
Then again, I remember a family member telling me back in their day they did not have to take a driver's exam in order to get their license, but nowadays countries (not all of them) have two exams (theory+practice). So some sort of regulation does not seem that impossible, does it?
Then there's the example of article 13, but that's for another time.
(which is contradictory to its own laws, so I'm positive something has to change over the pond)
- Other governments (which actually have publicly stated so), like the US, are actually looking into refreshing/updating their regulations when it comes to 'online' gambling. Which they should, because most laws were written decades ago in a style out of this age, so it seems only logical that new regulations will come, perhaps not as extensive as many think it will be. But it does seem that Belgium is setting a tone/trend for other countries (which I stated above) to follow, perhaps not as severe.
Then again, I remember a family member telling me back in their day they did not have to take a driver's exam in order to get their license, but nowadays countries (not all of them) have two exams (theory+practice). So some sort of regulation does not seem that impossible, does it?
Then there's the example of article 13, but that's for another time.
23-Aug-2019 22:57:05 - Last edited on 23-Aug-2019 23:08:30 by Torgi Nudho
Personal note: This might be offtopic, but it seems that you like to ridicule students, yet I remember some great revolutions which were started by a handful of students from my history classes ('68).
Please don't assume. Asking for clarification is better than jumping to conclusions. I applaud those students that are brave enough to ask a question
Please don't assume. Asking for clarification is better than jumping to conclusions. I applaud those students that are brave enough to ask a question
23-Aug-2019 23:04:55 - Last edited on 23-Aug-2019 23:05:34 by Torgi Nudho
Torgi Nudho
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You're claiming 'governments', yet I've only seen the UK state the same you're claiming
(which is contradictory to its own laws, so I'm positive something has to change over the pond)
- Other governments (which actually have publicly stated so), like the US, are actually looking into refreshing/updating their regulations when it comes to 'online' gambling. Which they should, because most laws were written decades ago in a style out of this age, so it seems only logical that new regulations will come, perhaps not as extensive as many think it will be. But it does seem that Belgium is setting a tone/trend for other countries (which I stated above) to follow, perhaps not as severe.
Then again, I remember a family member telling me back in their day they did not have to take a driver's exam in order to get their license, but nowadays countries (not all of them) have two exams (theory+practice).
Then there's the example of article 13, but that's for another time.
Who's looking? There are millions bills submitted to the Congress and >9000 each year. Those are all "regulations"?
No law has any problems with TH. If you don't think so, please tell us who said Jagex can't have TH and why is it still here?
You're claiming 'governments', yet I've only seen the UK state the same you're claiming
(which is contradictory to its own laws, so I'm positive something has to change over the pond)
- Other governments (which actually have publicly stated so), like the US, are actually looking into refreshing/updating their regulations when it comes to 'online' gambling. Which they should, because most laws were written decades ago in a style out of this age, so it seems only logical that new regulations will come, perhaps not as extensive as many think it will be. But it does seem that Belgium is setting a tone/trend for other countries (which I stated above) to follow, perhaps not as severe.
Then again, I remember a family member telling me back in their day they did not have to take a driver's exam in order to get their license, but nowadays countries (not all of them) have two exams (theory+practice).
Then there's the example of article 13, but that's for another time.
Who's looking? There are millions bills submitted to the Congress and >9000 each year. Those are all "regulations"?
No law has any problems with TH. If you don't think so, please tell us who said Jagex can't have TH and why is it still here?
23-Aug-2019 23:06:33
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