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Dilbert2001
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Told you all along. Margot James was not "the" Minister of DCMS. She was just ONE OF THE MANY MINISTERS there.

She was just a representative of DCMS on her July 2 2019 presentation. She did not write the Online Harm White Paper, which held no discussion on loot boxes whatsoever.

DCMS, as a whole, concluded that loot boxes is not gambling and there is no justification to even talk further on regulation.

DCMS, as a whole, thinks public funding should be used to develop the world's first regulatory framework on the Online Harm (i.e. trolling, bullying, disinformation, cyber attacks, etc).

All along, Margot James was just a member of the DCMS. Her area doesn't have to be gambling to present the results of DCMS as a whole on July 2, 2019. DCMS did not have to send out 5 ministers to discuss 5 different topics on July 2, 2019. It is just that simple.

25-Aug-2019 02:20:25

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Dilbert2001 said :
Told you all along. Margot James was not "the" Minister of DCMS. She was just ONE OF THE MANY MINISTERS there.

She was just a representative of DCMS on her July 2 2019 presentation. She did not write the Online Harm White Paper, which held no discussion on loot boxes whatsoever.

DCMS, as a whole, concluded that loot boxes is not gambling and there is no justification to even talk further on regulation.

DCMS, as a whole, thinks public funding should be used to develop the world's first regulatory framework on the Online Harm (i.e. trolling, bullying, disinformation, cyber attacks, etc).

All along, Margot James was just a member of the DCMS. Her area doesn't have to be gambling to present the results of DCMS as a whole on July 2, 2019. DCMS did not have to send out 5 ministers to discuss 5 different topics on July 2, 2019. It is just that simple.


Yet you spammed about 100 pages about the decision she discussed made years ago by the gambling commission regarding the fact they don't consider loot boxes to be gambling.

My favourite part was when she told a room full of lawyers she would write to them and let them know the difference between the Belgian and uk offline gambling laws. Especially when you consider how much those enquiries cost the public tax payer.

25-Aug-2019 02:27:24

Dilbert2001
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Dilbert2001 said :
Told you all along. Margot James was not "the" Minister of DCMS. She was just ONE OF THE MANY MINISTERS there.

She was just a representative of DCMS on her July 2 2019 presentation. She did not write the Online Harm White Paper, which held no discussion on loot boxes whatsoever.

DCMS, as a whole, concluded that loot boxes is not gambling and there is no justification to even talk further on regulation.

DCMS, as a whole, thinks public funding should be used to develop the world's first regulatory framework on the Online Harm (i.e. trolling, bullying, disinformation, cyber attacks, etc).

All along, Margot James was just a member of the DCMS. Her area doesn't have to be gambling to present the results of DCMS as a whole on July 2, 2019. DCMS did not have to send out 5 ministers to discuss 5 different topics on July 2, 2019. It is just that simple.


Yet you spammed about 100 pages about the decision she discussed made years ago by the gambling commission regarding the fact they don't consider loot boxes to be gambling.

My favourite part was when she told a room full of lawyers she would write to them and let them know the difference between the Belgian and uk offline gambling laws. Especially when you consider how much those enquiries cost the public tax payer.


Do you know how much money the UK Parliament.tv talk shows Jagex went to? It costs far more than producing the Oprah Winfred Show.

The gambling comparison reports came from the UK Gambling Commission. It costs the DCMS no money.

25-Aug-2019 02:40:40

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Dilbert2001 said :
xox Lola xox said :
Dilbert2001 said :
Told you all along. Margot James was not "the" Minister of DCMS. She was just ONE OF THE MANY MINISTERS there.

She was just a representative of DCMS on her July 2 2019 presentation. She did not write the Online Harm White Paper, which held no discussion on loot boxes whatsoever.

DCMS, as a whole, concluded that loot boxes is not gambling and there is no justification to even talk further on regulation.

DCMS, as a whole, thinks public funding should be used to develop the world's first regulatory framework on the Online Harm (i.e. trolling, bullying, disinformation, cyber attacks, etc).

All along, Margot James was just a member of the DCMS. Her area doesn't have to be gambling to present the results of DCMS as a whole on July 2, 2019. DCMS did not have to send out 5 ministers to discuss 5 different topics on July 2, 2019. It is just that simple.


Yet you spammed about 100 pages about the decision she discussed made years ago by the gambling commission regarding the fact they don't consider loot boxes to be gambling.

My favourite part was when she told a room full of lawyers she would write to them and let them know the difference between the Belgian and uk offline gambling laws. Especially when you consider how much those enquiries cost the public tax payer.


Do you know how much money the UK Parliament.tv talk shows Jagex went to? It costs far more than producing the Oprah Winfred Show.

The gambling comparison reports came from the UK Gambling Commission. It costs the DCMS no money.


Yes, yes I do. They talk about it quite regularly, along with costs for prosecutions, costs of mental health services, addictions. Pretty sure that's why they tend to protect people against potential harm.

25-Aug-2019 02:45:00

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DCMS just hosts the talk shows. All the reports mental health, gambling, online harm, data protection, privacy among 9000 other areas all come from their respective sources. It costs DCMS nothing since they only organize those reports and find somebody like a Margot James to present it on a specific date.

If one has to complain about wasting public funds, they will have to complain against all the stupid researches being done on loot boxes gambling and such since they are all irrelevant without real world cases. :D

25-Aug-2019 02:58:31

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Dilbert2001 said :
DCMS just hosts the talk shows. All the reports mental health, gambling, online harm, data protection, privacy among 9000 other areas all come from their respective sources. It costs DCMS nothing since they only organize those reports and find somebody like a Margot James to present it on a specific date.

If one has to complain about wasting public funds, they will have to complain against all the stupid researches being done on loot boxes gambling and such since they are all irrelevant without real world cases. :D


The research has been done and presented to the enquiry already.

25-Aug-2019 03:04:55

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xox Lola xox said :
Dilbert2001 said :
DCMS just hosts the talk shows. All the reports mental health, gambling, online harm, data protection, privacy among 9000 other areas all come from their respective sources. It costs DCMS nothing since they only organize those reports and find somebody like a Margot James to present it on a specific date.

If one has to complain about wasting public funds, they will have to complain against all the stupid researches being done on loot boxes gambling and such since they are all irrelevant without real world cases. :D


The research has been done and presented to the enquiry already.


That only means money otherwise could be spent on more important public issues has been wasted on stupid researches the real world knows will get them nowhere.

In the USA, we already see the FTC ignores all nonsense about loot box investigations because as they clearly advised the public - they could not talk about legal issues without legal cases. That's why they did not do any loot box investigation. They correctly ran a Loot Box Open House to educate the consumers though. I'd assume under UK laws, there would also be something like the 10th Amendment where the State Governments has no rights to make laws without the People (the REAL PEOPLE, not Santa or the Easter Bunny) asking for such laws.

There is only justification to talk about REAL WORLD regulations when there are REAL WORLD pressing issues like a riot for gun control and such. All kinds of researches are just garbage.

25-Aug-2019 03:15:32

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Yes the people have asked for the laws lol. There's about a million petitions actually. Maybe Jagex should move to America. Im sure they won't mind. Or maybe Belgium or China or Australia, or Hawaii. Or maybe France, they will like France.

25-Aug-2019 03:27:27

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Yes the people have asked for the laws lol. There's about a million petitions actually. Maybe Jagex should move to America. Im sure they won't mind. Or maybe Belgium or China or Australia, or Hawaii. Or maybe France, they will like France.


Any Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny can file a petition. Didn't I say REAL WORLD ISSUES with REAL WORLD uniquely identifiable people?

25-Aug-2019 03:54:55

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Respawn Entertainment have said that Apex Legends event loot boxes “broke [their] promise” of trying to “do monetisation in a way that felt fair.” The new Iron Crown event whammed a load of new cosmetic doodads into loot boxes, and the most elusive was only available if you got all the others first. Our boy Brendan noted that it “feels grubby,” and it does. Now Respawn plan to put some of those event items into the free-to-play battle royale FPS’s regular item store, and say that they’ll be try to be less grubby with future items

The next addition in the Gears of War franchise, Gears 5, will not have loot boxes or season passes.
Multiplayer design director, Ryan Cleven, says that the developer behind the game, The Coalition, believes that the game will ‘set a trend’ in terms of how games monetise in the future.

Brock confirmed that Borderlands 3 would not have loot boxes at all. While he admits that “there are genres and there are games where loot boxes work”, adding “I can understand that sentiment in a free to play game, it makes sense.” However, regarding the lack of loot boxes within Borderlands 3, Brock says they’re not in the game because they don’t “feel like a Borderlands thing”.

EA is continuing their trend away from loot boxes and has committed to leaving them out of Need for Speed: Heat, permanently. Considering the widespread uproar caused by the prevalence of loot boxes in EA's Star Wars Battlefront 2, it's a big relief the mega-publisher is taking this step to ensure history doesn't repeat itself.

Now the ESA with Nintendo, Microsoft, and Sony have agreed to make big changes and others are following suit such as Epic Games.

25-Aug-2019 04:04:23

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