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Dilbert2001
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Ashlin107 said :
https://www.theverge.com/2019/2/22/18236352/loot-box-video-game-ftc-workshop-hassan-congress

Looks like they are doing something and I'm not the only one "guessing" what's going to happen with Loot Boxes. Also I already know the FTC don't have legislative powers but that's where the actual government comes in and their investigation will make laws easier to make. I believe we've already covered this.

Plus even if they do push further into self regulation it'll only mean we'll see less or even no loot boxes sooner. Otherwise well the bills will come and sooner or latter they'll have to remove them any way.


Don't know which part you still don't understand that I (and the former FTC official) clearly told you already:

"For what will FTC do if they have something to do next? The article I quoted clearly mentioned that. It is what the BBB will do. They will need real life complaints with real life people filing them with real life identities. Then if there is need, the FTC/BBB will act as mediators and the consumers and the companies will meet at a real world table. So far nothing has happened obviously because they will need real world complaints."


That's exactly what the "public workshop" is for. Last year, FTC received 2.8 mil consumer complaints, that was like every 1 American consumer out of 100 filed a complaint and FTC said "YES" to investigation.

The "public workshop" is exactly what I told you. It is a public mediation talk. Everybody can attend so they can show everybody in the room where the game developers hurt their pixels. That's exactly I told you already, even without a crystal ball because FTC did that in their last 30-40 years to all kinds of industries as outlined by the former FTC official but nothing came out but more self-regulation and parental guidance websites things like the ESRB we already have. :D

26-Feb-2019 17:51:51

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Dilbert2001 said :
UrekMazino said :
Dilbert2001 said :
UrekMazino said :
Dilbert2001 said :
Good that you know it took years decades and there are never any proven facts that whatever you feel needs to be regulated will be regulated.

Sorry what? I'm pretty sure there are regulations for tobacco and alcohol. Are you trying to agree with me?


So? But the FTC did not make these regulations or any regualtions at all the last decades.

Prostitution has been an issue for hundreds of years and I am sure it is 9000% more problematic to most people in the USA and the World, but there are still no definitive regulations across the USA states, let alone the entire world for hundreds of years. :D :D :D

I'm not talking about FTC? I'm talking about regulations coming into effect, in general.


If you are not talking about FTC then please don't jump into my discussion about FTC with the other user. Thanks for your cooperation and I have asked for your such cooperation numerous times on different occasions already.

Its call drawing parallels/making comparison, is that against the rules? I don't think so, but if you think it is and believe you can order me around by telling me to not add relevant arguments to the discussion, then you know exactly what to do.
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27-Feb-2019 15:11:47

Dilbert2001
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This (exclusive) news from Variety actually shows the color of what FTC is going to do with the exact quote in their letter to Hassan:

"Simons also pointed out the FTC has a “long history of consumer protection activities relating to the video game industry and children.”

“For example, at the request of the President and Congress starting in 1999, the FTC issued a series of reports on the extent to which the
movie, music, and video game industries
marketed violent entertainment to children. As the video game industry has rapidly evolved, we have remained vigilant for potential consumer protection issues, and we have continued outreach efforts to
self-regulatory bodies such as the Entertainment Software Rating Board
.”

Thursday’s letter comes in response to a letter sent by Hassan last month asking for an update on the status of the investigation, a time table, as well as proposed next steps"


https://variety.com/2019/gaming/news/ftc-plans-public-workshop-on-loot-boxes-wont-comment-on-legal-investigation-exclusive-1203146123/

Although not quoted by other journalists/blogs, FTC has actually clearly stated their instance... and self-regulatory bodies such as ESRB and they firmly refuted any criticism that they are not doing the right thing already.

27-Feb-2019 16:01:56 - Last edited on 27-Feb-2019 16:02:49 by Dilbert2001

Dilbert2001
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Terminux said :
29 pages. Lol.


Yes LOL! But not just from these 29 pages of complete nothing since there was another 1000+ posts failed thread of exactly the same complete nothing started around November 2017 but now abandoned.

Let's face the real world bloody truth. There have only been more loot boxes since these complete nothing moaning about the non-existing "net" from the governments. You see all kinds of new loot boxes from new games like Apex Legends, CoD: Black Ops 4, Destiny 2, Artifacts, Assasin Creed, etc etc etc. There can only be more.

It has actually been worse in the real world regarding government regulations since real world loot boxes for real money are getting more and more serious everyday. Now we have real world movie stars, real world investment fund managers controlling $700 mil real world $$$ of assets and cryto currency exchanges bringing them out to the real world:

https://www.polygon.com/2019/3/4/18246712/real-life-loot-boxes-wax-virl-itemunbox-gambling

Where are the real world governments? Look, the real world "criminals" are doing real money loot boxes with the endorsements of real world celebrities and investment fund managers. LOL!!!

Where is that Belgium minister of whachamacallit? Where is Christ Lee with his failed loot box "bills"? Is Margie Hassan going to repeat her same old "it is a step in the right direction"? :D :D :D

05-Mar-2019 15:16:04

Dilbert2001
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Terminux said :
I'm flattered that you'd go and type a essay for me


You should be flattered that the others would go and type essays and essays out of nothing for you. To me it is really simple, I just copy and pasted real world, living and breathing information from real world sources. There are heaps and heaps of real information everywhere in the cyber space freely available to the public. Piece of cake really. :D :D :D

05-Mar-2019 17:59:31

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