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Dilbert2001
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Torgi Nudho said :
I found your date: "Facts speak louder than thunder, especially when the lone cricket in Belgium has been silenced since 16 months ago. :D "

16 months? Yet the UK signed it 11 months ago....?

Read the posts again. Belgium was in the dog house. They did not attend the EU meeting. :D :D :D

24-Aug-2019 00:11:45

Torgi Nudho

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Which EU meeting exactly? You've only given me '16' months to work with,

and no other proof besides your feels... and the words of a gaming journalist


Even still, the dates don't match... I... wall...? Sigh

24-Aug-2019 00:13:16 - Last edited on 24-Aug-2019 00:15:16 by Torgi Nudho

Dilbert2001
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Torgi Nudho said :
Which EU meeting exactly? You've only given me '16' months to work with,

and no other proof besides your feels... and the words of a gaming journalist

You should know which meeting when you clearly knew:

"Yet the UK signed it 11 months ago."


In fact, that's the only meeting the 16 EU countries came together to talk about online gambling. You can not have mistaken it with another one since it did not exist. :D

24-Aug-2019 00:15:38

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Dilbert2001 said :
Torgi Nudho said :
Which EU meeting exactly? You've only given me '16' months to work with,

and no other proof besides your feels... and the words of a gaming journalist

You should know which meeting when you clearly knew:

"Yet the UK signed it 11 months ago."


In fact, that's the only meeting the 16 EU countries came together to talk about online gambling. You can not have mistaken it with another one since it did not exist. :D

were you at bilderberg then

1. A Stable Strategic Order
2. What Next for Europe?
3. Climate Change and Sustainability
4. China
5. Russia
6. The Future of Capitalism
7. Brexit
8. The Ethics of Artificial Intelligence
9. The Weaponisation of Social Media
10. The Importance of Space
11. Cyber Threats

24-Aug-2019 00:18:02 - Last edited on 24-Aug-2019 00:25:31 by xox Lola xox

Torgi Nudho

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Dilbert2001 said :
Torgi Nudho said :
Which EU meeting exactly? You've only given me '16' months to work with,

and no other proof besides your feels... and the words of a gaming journalist

You should know which meeting when you clearly knew:

"Yet the UK signed it 11 months ago."


In fact, that's the only meeting the 16 EU countries came together to talk about online gambling. You can not have mistaken it with another one since it did not exist. :D


"16 EU countries"? I assume you meant the 15 EU gambling regulators and Washington?

So you're talking about GREF (gaming regulators european forum), which literally has multiple meetings every year?


- So it was 11 months ago, not 16 months,
- The UK signed it, they did not vote against it,
- It was not the only time they've come together to discuss online gambling,
- They even have an annual conference,
- It was founded in 1989, so they have had quite a few meetings since.

24-Aug-2019 00:23:25 - Last edited on 24-Aug-2019 00:30:45 by Torgi Nudho

Dilbert2001
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Torgi Nudho said :
"16 EU countries"? I assume you meant the 15 EU gambling regulators and Washington?

So you're talking about GREF (gaming regulators european forum), which literally has multiple meetings every year?


- So it was 11 months ago, not 16 months.
- The UK signed it, they did not vote against it.

You don't know we are talking about the online gambling regulation in video game meeting, i.e. loot boxes and skin gambling which is the only one on topic? If you don't, now you should know.

They only held one such meeting but the vocal Belgium was interestingly not there. And you know their stance already if you read the exit comments delivered by UK already. Loot boxes is not gambling. The problem is real money being cashed out of the game, i.e., 3rd party or skin gambling.

And there was no signing because there was no regulation. In fact, they explicitly said the meeting had no legal implication even before it started.

24-Aug-2019 00:30:44 - Last edited on 24-Aug-2019 00:32:21 by Dilbert2001

Torgi Nudho

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Dilbert2001 said :
Torgi Nudho said :
"16 EU countries"? I assume you meant the 15 EU gambling regulators and Washington?

So you're talking about GREF (gaming regulators european forum), which literally has multiple meetings every year?


- So it was 11 months ago, not 16 months.
- The UK signed it, they did not vote against it.

You don't know we are talking about the online gambling regulation in video game meeting, i.e. loot boxes and skin gambling which is the only one on topic? If you don't, now you should know.

They only held one such meeting but the vocal Belgium was interestingly not there. And you know their stance already if you read the exit comments delivered by UK already. Loot boxes is not gambling. The problem is real money being cashed out of the game, i.e., 3rd party or skin gambling.

- You said there was only one meeting, yet there were multiple on online gambling regulations

- You're saying the Uk gave exit comments, yet to this day, the UK is an active member of the Gaming Regulators European Forum.

- You're confusing the departure of UK Treasurer James Green with the UK leaving the international forum. Since Chris Rogers (UK), just filled a members role for the next upcoming two years.

(Source: GREF.net)

24-Aug-2019 00:35:45 - Last edited on 24-Aug-2019 00:39:07 by Torgi Nudho

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Torgi Nudho said :
Lola,

I am pretty sure the underlying problem is money laundering and gambling addictions, I can find a source for this if you'd like.

The problem is the potential harm, not to mention the fact that Jagex and others rather than doing a single thing about the harm they cause in fact would rather bitch about gambling, and then lie to parliament.

24-Aug-2019 00:42:05

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