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Torgi Nudho

Torgi Nudho

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A declarartion which literally states:

"to ensure the appropriate an d efficientimplementation of our national laws and regulations "

and "including the need for gambling to be regulated
to ensure high standards of integrity, fairness and consumer protection, in particular in relation
to children."

and "in controversies relating to skin
betting, loot boxes, social casino gaming and the use of gambling themed content within
video games"


- Per definition treasure hunter is a form of loot boxes (It's literally a box you open for some items of which you do not know the chances of getting it)


- And since you were 'feeling'/'stating' that other governments aren't wanting to regulate this at all, these countries/parties signed the mutual efforts agreement into regulating online gambling/MXT's:

Signe Birne, Director of Lotteries and Gambling
Supervisory Inspection of Latvia
Karel Blaha, Director of the State Oversight Over
Gambling Department, Czech Republic
Steve Brennan, Chief Executive, Gambling Supervision
Commission, Isle of Man
Charles Coppolani, Chair of the French Online Gaming
Regulatory Authority
Juan Espinosa García, CEO, Directorate General
for Gambling Regulation, Spain
Heathcliff Farrugia, Chief Executive Officer, Malta
Gaming Authority
Jason Lane, Chief Executive, Jersey Gambling
Commission
Andrew Lyman, Executive Director, Gambling Division,
HM Government of Gibraltar
Brendan Mac Namara, Principal Officer,
Gambling Policy Division, Department of Justice
and Equality of Ireland
Teresa Monteiro, Vice-President of Turismo de Portugal,
I.P
Henrik Nordal, Director Deputy General,
Norwegian Gaming Authority
Jan Suyver, Chair of the Board of Directors of
the Netherlands Gambling Authority
Neil McArthur, Chief Executive Officer,
UK Gambling Commission
Paweł Gruza, Undersecretary of State in the Ministry
of Finance, Poland
Alfred Hacker, Director, Federal Ministry of Finance,
Austria
David Trujillo, Washington

24-Aug-2019 00:00:06 - Last edited on 24-Aug-2019 00:01:37 by Torgi Nudho

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Dilbert2001 said :
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Torgi Nudho said :
You do know that during that meeting of the Gambling Regulators European Forum, 15 European regulators and the Washington State Gambling Commission signed a joint statement expressing concerns over loot boxes, skin betting and other similar practices, right? (2018)


And guess which country signed it as well...

"Neil McArthur, Chief Executive Officer,
UK Gambling Commission"


(source: Declaration of gambling regulators on their concerns related to the blurring of lines between gambling and gaming 17 September 2018)

They are very concerned about the harm loot boxes are causing I agree.

LOL. Their lead UK already told us loot boxes is not gambling. The harm? If you don't like it don't buy it. Video games are harming according to WHO's ICD:11, with or without loot boxes anyway.

Are you still bitching about gambling.

24-Aug-2019 00:00:08

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"Due to the current unclear situation in Belgium regarding certain in-game revenue models, we have decided to end the service for Animal Crossing: Pocket Camp and Fire Emblem Heroes in Belgium. It will therefore no longer be possible to play and download the games from Tuesday 27th August 2019.
"Players who still have Orbs and / or Leaf Tickets in their account can continue to use them until the service ends. In addition, future Nintendo games with similar earnings models will no longer be released in Belgium.
"We would like to thank all players in Belgium for playing Animal Crossing: Pocket Camp and Fire Emblem Heroes."
It's unclear why Nintendo is acting now - or only in Belgium. The country declared loot boxes were gambling back in April 2018, but after the Netherlands did the same. There's no word on Nintendo shutting down either of these games for its Dutch audience - yet.
Over the past year, Valve has blocked Dutch and Belgian players from opening CS:GO loot boxes, while Blizzard has done similar for Overwatch and Heroes of the Storm. A little later, ArenaNet followed suit for Guild Wars 2, while 2K adjusted NBA 2K microtransactions.
Worst hit, perhaps, was EA. In September 2018, Belgium reportedly launched a criminal investigation into the publisher over FIFA's lucrative loot boxes. In January this year, finally buckled and stopped selling FIFA Points. EA had argued its system was not gambling because players knew the number of items you were getting, the rough odds of getting particular players, and because there was no (official) method of cashing out. The same could all be said for Nintendo's mobile games - and so it's unsurprising the Mario maker is now feeling the pressure.

24-Aug-2019 00:00:39

Torgi Nudho

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'They concluded their statement a long time ago', can I have any proof of that, a date perhaps?

'long time ago' implies quite a few years, they signed it not even one year ago, it would seem quite unusual for a country to change its gambling policies within a year, especially after the numerous years of prior research

24-Aug-2019 00:04:16 - Last edited on 24-Aug-2019 00:06:07 by Torgi Nudho

Dilbert2001
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Torgi Nudho said :
'They concluded their statement a long time ago', can I have any proof of that, a date perhaps?

'long time ago' implies quite a few years, they signed it not even one year ago, it would seemed quite unusual for a country to change it's gambling policies within a year, including the numerous years of prior research

Don't try to argue the meaning of words. We have the links in the threads. You can check the dates.

They never have another meeting afterward after Ireland quit the meeting first and then UK delivered the final verdict.

24-Aug-2019 00:07:55

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