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MrBluesky
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Who has more weight than anyone in runescapes lore? Who would be a major deal if it turned out they were working with Sliske? Perhaps Guthix? Guthix wants balance and the end to the gods interference the same as Sliske.

Or is it not as heavy as that and maybe its Zaros and it turns out Zaros is as evil as he is sometimes made out..

Thanks Mod Wilson!

24-May-2016 13:38:05

timeless24-7
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Mod Wilson said :
Hey there. Much as I enjoyed seeing this thread pop up I'd like to confirm something; the mysterious voice in that cutscene is NOT Xau-Tak. Its words carry significantly more weight. ;)

...No, literally**********; If Sliske comprehended the meaning behind the Black Howling of Xau-Tak then the parts of his brain responsible for processing languages and memory would gain enough gravity that his head would compact to the size of a child’* fist.

With this quote of the "weight" of the voice in mind...
Has anyone already thought of the author of The Divine Delusion?
The author is Oreb, Magister of house Charron

He has experimented with the transference of souls and is most likely a magister from kethsi.
Who is to say that he (or another magister) hasn't performed an experiment which bound a soul to the stone of jas?

I would even consider it to be more likely that the
Elder mage Etheron
might have been bound to the stone that he himself has brought to kethsi. Either as punishment for the doom of the kethsi civilization or to ensure his own survival as the dragonkin would not be able to destroy the stone.
He was first mentioned in the message of Dathana about the destruction of Kethsi during ROTM. It was also mentioned that (only) 9 of the conclave survived

My bet is that a magister's soul was bound to the stone of Jas and that due to sliske's 'unique' mental state, has seen an opportunity to influence him.
This would also explain why the master of shadows suddenly knows how to use the Siphon for soul extraction without help from the weight of an entity as strong as a high tier god.

EDIT: typo's

24-May-2016 13:40:08 - Last edited on 24-May-2016 13:47:15 by timeless24-7

MrBluesky
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Just watched Rainy's playthrough of this cutscene to rewatch it. I dont think it is Guthix he is far too emotionless, and I dont think it is Zaros either. Zaros is too intelligent to ask Sliske "Enough, this will bring them?". Zaros would certainly know this.

From the way the voice speaks it suggests someone external from current god affairs, but also someone who has a lot of power.

Soo maybe it is an Elder God..

I don't think hes talking to the stone as he was lead to the stone by the being in question. How could he have been contacted without any interaction with the stone.

They also seem to refer to the stone as an object which is a separate from both of them so I doubt the being in question is trapped in the stone.

It still could be Guthix as he is quite out of touch with current affairs.. but the to the point way of the voices speaking goes against this.

24-May-2016 14:04:38

Aig123
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From what I've read, these ideas intrigued me.

Sixth Elder God?
I thought Elder Gods looked down on us like ants, beyond our thoughts and comprehension.
Why would one cooperate with lower lifeforms let alone talk to us. Then again, this 6th Elder is apparently 'not of form', suggesting it needs help finding a vessel, like Zaros once did.

Zaros?
Knowing Sliske has the Catalyst and the Siphon gave him pause, Sliske also grew tired of Zaros long ago, and tried to convince us to sabotage his return.

Kerapac?
Kerapac certainly does have the brutally honest attitude, being cold, logical and calculating, much like Zaros. It is very un-Dactyl-like to allow a false user/stone toucher to experiment on such a cause of pain. Perhaps an unknown person above Kerapac is calling the shots?

Strange Glowing Orb?
Assuming the trade sequence is canon. The Entity within the orb seems evil and observant. It doesn't know much about runes suggesting it is/was so divine it doesnt need runes, or that it is so alien that the Catalyst/Siphon are totally unrelated to it.

Xau-Tak?
Confirmed not to be the master

Other Influences?
There was that Abyssal creature from Heart of Stone, we're yet to hear from them.
The Schism/Rift entity warps minds, it also snaps souls from their hosts like Death's scythe.
Potentially Sliske has another personality which would explain a whole lot.
Other False users, a surviving Kethsian for instance.
Perhaps its the Queen of Ashes.
Balance Elemental from a different time? (it knew the Stones location)

Any other ideas?

24-May-2016 14:49:57

Kemtros
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I think this has to relate to the Staff of Armadyl. The mysterious voice was familiar with the connection between the two artifacts, and Sliske claimed that he would give it to us. I do believe that he was sincere in offering the staff, but once we saw behind his mask, he altered the deal, so maybe Sliske no longer had any use for it?

The thing to me is, it seems that the voice doesn't even care about the Stone of Jas. At all. It asks "This will bring them?" What this voice wants is the Big Game. It could care less about the prize itself, just as long as the gods are together. The voice thinks nothing of the Stone beyond a means to an end, or as bait. Not only is Zaros too intelligent to ask if the Stone would bring them, he also wants the Stone for himself. The voice seems to care too little about the Stone for this to be Zaros.

Who we're looking for is someone who would be familiar with the Staff of Armadyl, but doesn't care about the Stone of Jas. Kara-Meir is certainly someone who would be interested in the gods gathering together, but not someone who I'd expect to be familiar with the Staff of Armadyl. It's also heavily implied that she does care about the Stone of Jas, and I can't see Sliske working for her.

24-May-2016 14:54:53

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Maybe Sliske had a psychotic break down, and developed another split personality?
While Sliske is all about fun and chaos and trickery, this one is a far more direct.
With his actions of taking the Siphon, it began to manifest on its own ... not just being another voice in his head.

Sliske would in effect be taking orders from himself.

24-May-2016 14:59:30

ZAmorakZaros
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Aig123 said :
Sixth Elder God?
I thought Elder Gods looked down on us like ants, beyond our thoughts and comprehension.
Why would one cooperate with lower lifeforms let alone talk to us. Then again, this 6th Elder is apparently 'not of form', suggesting it needs help finding a vessel, like Zaros once did.

Do they look down on mahjarrats? Do they look down on their own creations?

Maybe. Maybe elders like borrowing the creations of others NO
I do not ship ZamorakxZaros.
I follow them. And Marimbo, the best t5 god.

24-May-2016 15:17:06

Dionysius
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My top two theories on the owner of the voice would be:

Kerapac: The cold, disembodied tone of the mysterious voice instantly reminded me of the logical thinking, "means to an end" Kerapac.
What would he gain from gathering the gods all together / encouraging a competition where they kill each other? Lessening of the curse experienced by the Dragonkin when a False User is killed. Alternatively, perhaps he believes he can convince them to help him break the curse - resulting in a world where young gods can freely abuse the Catalyst's power without worrying about the threat of Dragonkin intervention.

Jas Kra: The tone of voice also distinctly reminded me of the Kra of Jas we encounter in Heart of Stone. We also know, from HoS, that this particular Kra is well aware of the existence of the Elder Artefacts and what powers they grant, so it wouldn't be beyond imagination to believe that they would know enough about the Siphon and the Catalyst to show Sliske how to use the Siphon.
The motivation? The Kra seems genuinely concerned with the damage to the Anima Mundi caused by Xenia's actions during the quest. Perhaps it believes the young gods are also likely to cause damage to the Anima Mundi and sees the Endgame as a way to draw them together to eliminate the threat all at once.

Just some thoughts. Otherwise, I'm not ruling out Zaros having lied to us in Fate of the Gods to get what he wanted and be working with Sliske all along. The original Wise Old Man

24-May-2016 15:18:58

Aig123
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ZAmorakZaros said :
Aig123 said :
Sixth Elder God?
I thought Elder Gods looked down on us like ants, beyond our thoughts and comprehension.
Why would one cooperate with lower lifeforms let alone talk to us. Then again, this 6th Elder is apparently 'not of form', suggesting it needs help finding a vessel, like Zaros once did.

Do they look down on mahjarrats? Do they look down on their own creations?

Maybe. Maybe elders like borrowing the creations of others

Well Mah almost crushed Zaros, so what would she think of Mahjarrat?
Then again she was almost still-born, can't blame her.

Good question though, did the other Elders create sentient, purposeful life, like the TokHaar for instance?

24-May-2016 15:21:06

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