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Kemtros
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Wahisietel said :
If you guys want some actual candidates to speculate over, I suggest Zaros, Jas, or the Sixth elder god.

My money's on Zaros or the Sixth Elder God personally.


I'd go with Jas or the Sixth Elder God. The text was in gold, which really doesn't seem to suit Zaros. Yes, he has gold on his outfit, but I feel we should take that as a reason.

23-May-2016 20:05:18

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Wahisietel said :
If you guys want some actual candidates to speculate over, I suggest Zaros, Jas, or the Sixth elder god.

My money's on Zaros or the Sixth Elder God personally.


I always assumed that the 6th Elder God was still inside the egg, or her spirit anyway, she MUST be controlling him, we are also a Stonetoucher, maybe she does not like her power stolen?

23-May-2016 20:07:51

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Solmestix said :
Wahisietel said :
If you guys want some actual candidates to speculate over, I suggest Zaros, Jas, or the Sixth elder god.

My money's on Zaros or the Sixth Elder God personally.


I always assumed that the 6th Elder God was still inside the egg, or her spirit anyway, she MUST be controlling him, we are also a Stonetoucher, maybe she does not like her power stolen?


This is what I thought as well, but Sliske looks back, which to me makes it seem like there was another person there outside of the Stone, as if what we were seeing was through that person's eyes.

23-May-2016 20:12:18

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Kemtros said :
Solmestix said :
Wahisietel said :
If you guys want some actual candidates to speculate over, I suggest Zaros, Jas, or the Sixth elder god.

My money's on Zaros or the Sixth Elder God personally.


I always assumed that the 6th Elder God was still inside the egg, or her spirit anyway, she MUST be controlling him, we are also a Stonetoucher, maybe she does not like her power stolen?


This is what I thought as well, but Sliske looks back, which to me makes it seem like there was another person there outside of the Stone, as if what we were seeing was through that person's eyes.


Sliske's master was also the one who informed him how to use the Siphon to locate the Catalyst. Why would the "6th elder" trapped inside the Catalyst tell him where to find it if he hadn't already stumbled upon it?

P.S. I still think the "6th elder" is just the Catalyst itself. It's not sentient, sapient, or w/e. It's just a hard-boiled energy conduit Jas left out in the sun too long.

23-May-2016 20:38:37

Wahisietel
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Looking back, I think Sliske talking to the Stone of Jas itself makes the most sense. Him serving an actual entity (besides Zaros) really does not fit his character, especially since he was still working for Zaros until Fate of the Gods. Also, the voice's text is orange, which is Jas's colour.

And we already know that the Stone of Jas possesses some degree of sentience from While Guthix Sleeps. Take a look at the WGS quest journal.

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I've seen a vision by touching the strange orb. It has communicated to me that it is 'The Stone of Jas', owned by Jas, and protected by creatures she enslaved for the purpose - the Dragonkin.


Also, note that we trigger that flashback by touching a crystal inside an orb... Like when we touched the Stone of Jas three times previously. Could that orrey have been a disguised stone of Jas, or maybe the crystal was a piece of it? Food for thought.
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23-May-2016 20:40:56 - Last edited on 23-May-2016 20:41:25 by Wahisietel

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If that cutscene wasn't happening at the time of the quest, then it could very well of been Zaros.

If it was happening at current time though.. the 6th elder god could be pushing it.
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23-May-2016 20:48:29 - Last edited on 23-May-2016 20:50:56 by Zulkir

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It doesn't make sense for Zaros to be the master, to be honest. Let's face it, he was stuck on Freneskae scrambling for energy to sustain himself and was busy discussing his plans with Azzanadra. And he almost certainly didn't trust Sliske enough to tell him what to do with the Siphon. On top of that, he tells us that he didn't order Sliske to kill Guthix, while entering our mind thresholds and putting himself in a situation where he couldn't lie.

Sliske got the Stone and the Staff after Lucien died, in the Fifth Age. Zaros couldn't really have told him what to do with it at the time, and even if he could he wouldn't have trusted him enough to do so. And as for ordering Sliske to kill Guthix, why would Zaros want Azzanadra and the other Zarosians to wake Guthix up and talk to him instead of killing him off? Zaros knew about Seren's relationship with him. He tells us that he hopes they both can reconcile, which would be impossible if he did give Sliske the order.

If anything, Sliske likely doesn't truly have a master and instead did a deal with Xau-Tak to maybe glean more information on him or get legions of undead at his disposal. Either that or the master is the Sixth, and Sliske is trying to break her free.
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23-May-2016 21:14:54

Wahisietel
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We know that Zaros had some contact with Sliske pre-FOTG, as Sliske's game was his idea. The only source that Zaros couldn't lie in the mind threshold is Zaros himself. It's entirely possible he lied about not being able to lie.

But I agree it's probably not Zaros, as we would recognize his voice. I'm gonna stick with my theory of it being the Stone of Jas itself, since we know it's capable of communication.
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23-May-2016 21:31:46

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