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Kemtros
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Wahisietel said :
Looking back, I think Sliske talking to the Stone of Jas itself makes the most sense. Him serving an actual entity (besides Zaros) really does not fit his character, especially since he was still working for Zaros until Fate of the Gods. Also, the voice's text is orange, which is Jas's colour.

Then my own theory can still hold up! It may be confirmation bias, but I feel this quest helped to support my theory that the Stone of Jas holds the Sixth Elder God and/or some form of Jas, so it needs Sliske to bring all the gods to the summit, where the winner will become the new vessel of whatever is in the Stone.

23-May-2016 22:04:51

Captain Lime
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We were definitely primed to think it was Xau-tak during the quest, with them leaving a book about the mysteries of Xau-tak out in the open. It could be a red herring, though right now that seems to be more of a possibility than a probability. ^ "Some of those words were
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23-May-2016 22:15:27

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The mysterious voice's emotionless delivery (as well as its seeming inability to understand beauty) fit very closely with how I imagine(d) Zaros thinks/speaks, in a more candid setting (i.e. when he speaks with us, he's putting up more of a front in order to appear more approachable).

Though at this point I don't think that's very likely. Far more probable for Xau-Tak to have taken hold of Sliske as his obsession grew. Although...

Captain Lime said :
We were definitely primed to think it was Xau-tak during the quest, with them leaving a book about the mysteries of Xau-tak out in the open. It could be a red herring, though right now that seems to be more of a possibility than a probability.
I agree that the connection is a bit too obvious to be close to certain. Patrolling Lore FC almost makes you wish for a Great Revision.

23-May-2016 22:35:18 - Last edited on 23-May-2016 22:37:12 by Raleirosen

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Captain Lime said :
I dunno, I feel like when Zaros speaks, it's more of in a giving-orders type way. This just seemed... different.
That's true, but consider the hypothetical: if it is indeed Zaros, then his relationship with Sliske is far more intimate than previously thought. Given the intimacy of the relationship, one would imagine that their conversations would extend beyond explicitly master/servant, order/obey.

It could also go a little towards explaining Sliske's obsession with us. Sliske could be Zaros' chosen one, in the same way that we are Guthix's.

In any case, like I said it's not particularly likely. Patrolling Lore FC almost makes you wish for a Great Revision.

23-May-2016 22:42:54

Velia
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OOOOOOOOooooooo...

I liked this quest. I liked it a lot.

Sliske is all stoked like "Lol look at this chaotic little human... I can pull them along to play my games and nothing bad will happen; to me, at least."

And we're all like "I AM THE FONT OF CATACLYSM! NONE CAN RULE OVER ME!"

So when Sliske is all like "Heehee I've contained you to do my dastardly schemes!"

We're like "Contain THIS!"

And we break a hole into his secret room (nice planning, Sliske) and rip off his mask to look at the confusing, convoluted mass underneath causing him to flip out. He found out the hard way that we're basically so chaotic, even he can't keep us as a pawn.

I got a lot of 'World Guardian" pride going on right now.


-Ahem-
I got a little carried away...

I loved this quest. We got a glimpses of... something major happening, but not enough to piece it all together. Yet. And left us with questions, good questions.

So... Sliske's master... I think the most telling thing here is that who -or what- ever it is knows a thing or two about the Staff of Armadyl. Question is who would know so much about the SoA? I don't think Xau fit's the bill, honestly (that and Xau seems to be tied up more with pirates), but just watch as it's revealed to be Xau .

It could just be that the mere reference to Xau-Tak was a development choice meant to throw us off -onto a false lead- from who the actual mastermind is.

Edit: Oop, Lime beat me to it. I take a little too long with writing out my posts. :|

23-May-2016 22:56:12 - Last edited on 23-May-2016 22:59:53 by Velia

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Velia said :
I loved this quest. We got a glimpses of... something major happening, but not enough to piece it all together. Yet. And left us with questions, good questions.
I agree; if nothing else, this quest was top-tier. Hilarious given all the doubting that was taking place prior to release. Patrolling Lore FC almost makes you wish for a Great Revision.

23-May-2016 23:06:26 - Last edited on 23-May-2016 23:08:07 by Raleirosen

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Raleirosen said :
Velia said :
I loved this quest. We got a glimpses of... something major happening, but not enough to piece it all together. Yet. And left us with questions, good questions.
I agree; if nothing else, this quest was top-tier. Hilarious given all the doubting that was taking place prior to release.

As someone who went in with lower expectations, and a criticism of the trailer, I am proud to say how wrong my pre-release thoughts were. Everything about the quest turned out much better than I could have possibly anticipated.

Incidentally, I actually appreciate Sliske's character much more. I feel he comes off as more of a Devil-like character than a Joker-like one now. By which I mean that his entire demeanor seems more akin to delivering promises to those who seek him out, only to twist things for his own purposes (Greg, Linza, etc.). And with his manipulation of the Barrows Brothers and preying on the darker aspects of their pasts, effectively punishing them with his own equally-sadistic measures, that came off as something none too short of Biblical.

Great quest. Perhaps a top 5'er, especially among 6th Age quests. " All great changes are preceded by chaos. "

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23-May-2016 23:30:19

Jimothey
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I was beginning to wonder why/how he contained that memory of his conversation with whomever his master is in that crystal and I thought of 3 possibilities:

1: It's his forehead gem. I don't think we've ever seen it, then again same goes for other mahjarrat.

2: It's just another memoriam crystal. Unless the globe isn't a disguided memoriam reader and memoriam crystals aren't reserved only for Zaros and Seren then this is a plausible option.

3: A piece of the SoJ (Catalyst) that contained that specific memory. It kinda counts as a crystal. It also gives a cutscene Sliske is standing near the Stone of Jas, which is pretty much the same as the other gods touching it. Though it doesn't give us the momentary power to beat Sliske up. Unless either Sliske rigged it, it was our world guardian powers that prevented a power-up overall, or it kept us from getting killed by Sliske's beating. Roses are grey, violets are grey, I'm in Pompeii, I'm lost.

23-May-2016 23:39:50

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Wahisietel said :
We know that Zaros had some contact with Sliske pre-FOTG, as Sliske's game was his idea. The only source that Zaros couldn't lie in the mind threshold is Zaros himself. It's entirely possible he lied about not being able to lie.

But I agree it's probably not Zaros, as we would recognize his voice. I'm gonna stick with my theory of it being the Stone of Jas itself, since we know it's capable of communication.

The game itself was not Zaros' idea. He needed a distraction, Sliske was given the reigns to make it happen however he liked. It's happening because Zaros let it happen, because it helps him, but he didn't specifically order it to be this way.

So no, we doubt that they had contact pre-fot*.
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23-May-2016 23:48:14

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