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Kemtros
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Bonzara said :
So maybe Armadyl is RuneScape's version of Firestorm (from the comics)?

Hmm… possibly? Though far more malevolent, which would be Deathstorm. It would at least explain their familiarity with the Staff, and have someone with a split personality, instead of Sliske.

03-Jun-2016 14:13:06

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Kemtros said :
Bonzara said :
So maybe Armadyl is RuneScape's version of Firestorm (from the comics)?

Hmm… possibly? Though far more malevolent, which would be Deathstorm. It would at least explain their familiarity with the Staff, and have someone with a split personality, instead of Sliske.
Sliske's split personality doesn't make a lot of sense to me, how did Eksils learn about the staff but Sliske didn't?

If we're going for split personality, I'd like to propose some sort of Dark Lord but for Guthix.

Edit: actually, he wouldn't know how The Siphon works either. Feonix ironman clan (1k total, IM and HCIM only)

03-Jun-2016 15:20:16 - Last edited on 03-Jun-2016 15:42:44 by oClock

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oClock said :
Sliske's split personality doesn't make a lot of sense to me, how did Eksils learn about the staff but Sliske didn't?

This is exactly why Sliske having a split personality makes as little sense as the mysterious voice being Zaros.

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If we're going for split personality, I'd like to propose some sort of Dark Lord but for Guthix.

Edit: actually, he wouldn't know how The Siphon works either.

Guthix's memories suggest that he was at least familiar with the staff, though he'd probably refer to the Staff as the Siphon. He told us that the Enchanted Key is called the Amserdrwys, so I would see him calling the artefacts by their proper names.

03-Jun-2016 17:50:41

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Kemtros said :
oClock said :
Sliske's split personality doesn't make a lot of sense to me, how did Eksils learn about the staff but Sliske didn't?

This is exactly why Sliske having a split personality makes as little sense as the mysterious voice being Zaros.

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If we're going for split personality, I'd like to propose some sort of Dark Lord but for Guthix.

Edit: actually, he wouldn't know how The Siphon works either.

Guthix's memories suggest that he was at least familiar with the staff, though he'd probably refer to the Staff as the Siphon. He told us that the Enchanted Key is called the Amserdrwys, so I would see him calling the artefacts by their proper names.
i kind of feel we're drawing too much attention to them calling it the staff: Sliske knows what The Siphon is really called (Sliske's Ramblings) but also refers to it as the staff. Feonix ironman clan (1k total, IM and HCIM only)

03-Jun-2016 17:53:47 - Last edited on 03-Jun-2016 17:56:28 by oClock

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Could it be Amascut? Sliske clearly isn't the type to enter total servitude (at least not honestly), and they both seem to be after souls and destruction. Sliske does it for fun, while Amascut does it because she's insane and probably nihilistic. And since Icthlarin seems to be aware of the nature of the Stone, could Amascut have stumbled across the Staff? Nothing is known of what happened to it during the Third and Fourth Ages, and Amascut went crazy after Tumeken blew himself up.

Witnessing the Kharidian Lands razed to the ground along with her father 'dying', and that traumatic event on Freneskae, she may have shut herself completely from beauty. As for why she would want to bring the gods together, it may have something to do with her apparent meeting with Mah, or Sliske doing something to her before he joined Zaros. And what could have happened to the Siphon before the Guardians of Armadyl found it?

The way Sliske takes souls to be his wights and in some cases torturing them may come in line somewhat with 'serving' Amascut. But he obviously has his own agenda, and considers the player a pawn. While Amascut wants to destroy the souls, Sliske is playing with them. Prepare for hell on RuneScape in Naval Cataclysm!

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03-Jun-2016 19:47:53

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Ancient Drew said :
Could it be Amascut?
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amascut is a surprising choice, but I have a few issues:
- She has a concept of beauty: "Crazy? You dare call me crazy? I am beautiful! I am powerful!" She's also a bit more theatrical than the voice, although that might be due to a different writer.
- There's been no past indication that she's involved with the staff.
- She seems to be reserved for desert quests.

However, as you point out, she's a good candidate. Icthlarin already has been involved with the questline, and there's no reason why she wouldn't have access to the staff. She also does make a nice match with Sliske. However, I wonder what her reason for involvement is. The voice seems to have a goal and Sliske claims to want to start a second god wars, something I don't really see Amascut wanting. Amascut is mostly involved with her own power, and she probably wants the stone for herself. Feonix ironman clan (1k total, IM and HCIM only)

03-Jun-2016 21:11:07

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I think her being reserved for the Desert quests is enough to rule her out. While she would get some focus next year if Menaphos and Desert quests do well in the survey, Icthlarin's role in the series… well, I'd say that depends on how you feel on the voice having a direct connection to Armadyl.

My main reservation on the voice being connected to Armadyl is when exactly Jagex decided on Sliske's master. Was it like they retroactively decided somewhere between Fate of the Gods and this quest who the master would be because Armadyl won The Bird and the Beast? Otherwise, it makes the choices for the summit too… narrow.

I mean, Armadyl and Vorago are going to be involved no matter what, but we had to choose between Icthlarin and Death. Despite Icthlarin's role, we can effectively say that Death is more important. If the voice is Amascut, it would either have to account for us giving Death a score while denying Icthlarin one, or worst-case scenario, completely ignore that there is effectively a binary between Icthlarin and Death now.

A safer option would probably be to just look at how the voice wants a gathering. Is there any reason to believe it's interested in any one of the contestants above all others? Maybe Armadyl, but only because of the Staff. For all we know, it could just see Armadyl as the Staff's "False User" the same way the Dragonkin would view Saradomin or Zamorak.

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04-Jun-2016 17:35:33

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- It wouldn't be very interesting if it were Zaros. But as established, it's very unlikely to be him.
- I doubt it's connected to the strange glowing orb. They seem like two completely different stories.
- I could see it being the Queen of Ashes. I'd very much love that, since I'm more fascinated by her than Xau-Tak. It would also add onto why Hero's Welcome was almost a requirement.
- The Sixth Elder God is my favorite possibility, since my personal theory is that whoever wins the Big Game will become the vessel to an Elder God.
- Hostilius seems… odd. Can't really disprove it, but not exactly one I'm going to consider.

04-Jun-2016 17:59:31

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I doubt it's Hostilius, as Zaros describes Chthonians as highly intelligent beings who chased up culture and art. A nihilistic and destructive monster wouldn't fit him, since he was quite cunning and proud of his bureaucratic skills. Prepare for hell on RuneScape in Naval Cataclysm!

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04-Jun-2016 18:59:38

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