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Hazeel

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Sliske's Master is the Unaligned God. Ere* was right. He saw the signs. He tried to warn us. And now...in our darkest hour...we need him. Runescape doesn't need a hero...it needs a villain. An all encompassing force of evil that will remain ever-threatening and use chaos to make the peoples of Gielinor tolerate each other, grow strong together, and fight side by side against this evil. I am that villain.

27-Jun-2016 02:55:39 - Last edited on 27-Jun-2016 02:55:58 by Hazeel

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Sepulchre

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I derped hard. There's a 4th part of that criteria

4.) Way of speaking. The 'Mysterious voice' is very.. unemotional. Almost like it doesn't care about anything, or is unable to care about anything. Uninterested, is the best word I can think of.

That's where my Raptor theory even came from. A

World Guardian

must learn to find

Balance

in themselves.
Only then can they

Control

themselves and forge their own

Fate .

27-Jun-2016 04:51:29

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Kemtros

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I honestly doubt that it's the Raptor, but all of your criteria do fit what I've been saying.

The Voice has knowledge of the Staff, and how it relates to the Stone, but it doesn't seem to care about the Stone. Which is funny, considering how Sliske's storyline has all just been a part of the Stone of Jas pillar of the Sixth Age. I think Hguoh various possibilities certainly help, especially since it follows the same logic as the Stone of Jas. Hguoh suggested that gathering the gods together might be bait for someone else, and the gods themselves are being baited by the Stone of Jas.

27-Jun-2016 16:52:56

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Sepulchre

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Kemtros said :
I honestly doubt that it's the Raptor, but all of your criteria do fit what I've been saying.

The Voice has knowledge of the Staff, and how it relates to the Stone, but it doesn't seem to care about the Stone. Which is funny, considering how Sliske's storyline has all just been a part of the Stone of Jas pillar of the Sixth Age. I think Hguoh various possibilities certainly help, especially since it follows the same logic as the Stone of Jas. Hguoh suggested that gathering the gods together might be bait for someone else, and the gods themselves are being baited by the Stone of Jas. Gathering the gods as bait? First thing to come to mind is Dragonkin.
Which means Sliske's master is most probably Jas. A

World Guardian

must learn to find

Balance

in themselves.
Only then can they

Control

themselves and forge their own

Fate .

28-Jun-2016 04:39:27

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Kemtros

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Jas is who I've been hoping for. Honestly, I'd prefer her over the Sixth Elder God, unless the Sixth Elder God has a very direct connection to Jas. But other criteria, such as using the Siphon's mortal name, have me inclined to believe it's someone else.

28-Jun-2016 14:41:52

Hguoh

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Well if we are going by my, the gods are bait idea, then we should consider who it is the voice wants to draw in.

As Sepulchre points out, the first to come to mind is the Dragonkin. Now, all things considered, who has such a beef with the Kin, or at least the Necrosy*tes, to want them all in one place and is either clever or powerful enough to actually do something to them once they are there?

Of course, there's an alternative. It could be that the goal is to get as many elder artifacts and their 'stolen' energy in one place at one time so as to act as bait (the Staff, Stone, and Crown will be there, the Measure and Kiln could be there, and most of the gods involved have taken some energy from one or more artifacts), but then you run into the wall of figuring out who or what would definitely be drawn to that.

28-Jun-2016 18:58:09

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Sepulchre

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Hguoh said :
Well if we are going by my, the gods are bait idea, then we should consider who it is the voice wants to draw in.

As Sepulchre points out, the first to come to mind is the Dragonkin. Now, all things considered, who has such a beef with the Kin, or at least the Necrosy*tes, to want them all in one place and is either clever or powerful enough to actually do something to them once they are there?

Of course, there's an alternative. It could be that the goal is to get as many elder artifacts and their 'stolen' energy in one place at one time so as to act as bait (the Staff, Stone, and Crown will be there, the Measure and Kiln could be there, and most of the gods involved have taken some energy from one or more artifacts), but then you run into the wall of figuring out who or what would definitely be drawn to that. That still points to an Elder God as Sliske's master. A

World Guardian

must learn to find

Balance

in themselves.
Only then can they

Control

themselves and forge their own

Fate .

29-Jun-2016 05:05:19

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Sepulchre

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So I had a bit of a thought today. I was watching over a Playthrough of Kindred Spirits on YouTube, and I think found a few clues in the dialogue.

1.) A lot of people have been saying that the cutscene we witnessed with Sliske and the voice standing in front of the Stone happened before, and the conversation is directly referencing MPD. However, during the cutscene the voice says

Enough! This will bring them?

and Sliske responds

Oh yes, very much so. The siren song of the Stone will bring all the gods together.

Sliske specifically says that his method of luring the gods to gather would be the Stone, yet nobody was aware that he had the Stone until MPD. In all likelihood, this took place AFTER MPD and refers to the Endgame itself.
2.) I don't think the Voice is a Dragonkin (and I still don't think it's an Elder God, for obvious reasons in the following lines). The voice says

The staff is quite useful.

and Sliske responds

Yes and the look on that Dragonkin's face was hilarious!

This could be looking too deeply into the wording, but saying "that Dragonkin" wouldn't be the correct way to talk to a Dragonkin. 'the other Dragonkin,' calling the Dragonkin by name, or even 'on your brother's face' would work, but the wording here suggests the voice is not a Dragonkin either. A

World Guardian

must learn to find

Balance

in themselves.
Only then can they

Control

themselves and forge their own

Fate .

01-Jul-2016 06:39:06

Loristic

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Sepulchre said :
1.) [ ] Sliske specifically says that his method of luring the gods to gather would be the Stone, yet nobody was aware that he had the Stone until MPD. In all likelihood, this took place AFTER MPD and refers to the Endgame itself.
2.) [ ] This could be looking too deeply into the wording, but saying "that Dragonkin" wouldn't be the correct way to talk to a Dragonkin. 'the other Dragonkin,' calling the Dragonkin by name, or even 'on your brother's face' would work, but the wording here suggests the voice is not a Dragonkin either.

1. I'm not quite sure about this yet because we don't know how long Sliske has had a new master. And I'm pretty sure his master has known that Sliske has had the Stone for a long time, before we became aware of it. But I think he has served him/her some time before the World Wakes as killing Guthix in fact allows the gathering of the gods to happen in Gielinor due to lack of Guthix' edicts.

2. What if Sliske doesn't care about names? I think a Dactyl wouldn't mind if Sliske called and mocked a Necrosy*te like that. The impatience and nihilism of Sliske's master may also explain why such a wording didn't get the master angry.

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As I speculated above that Sliske has had his new master before the World Wakes. His master probably wanted Guthix to die. Why? Because the god of balance prevented all the gods from coming to Gielinor. And Gielinor is the thing in this speculation. This Endgame meeting could happen everywhere, like in Mazcab or Freneskae. Either Gielinor is just the most sought planet in the universe or someone particular wants the gods meet in specifically in Gielinor very close to the Stone (e.g. an elder god). So, we could have the formula "gods + a meeting in Gielinor with the Stone = ???" Loristic, the Seeker of Lore, the Archivist of Knowledge, the World Guardian, the Diplomat of Cabbages, and the Regent of Miscellania. May anima mundi be with you and hail Guthix!

01-Jul-2016 13:21:52

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Kemtros

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I still think the cutscene was before MPD. Even if no one knew that he had the Stone, Sliske is telling the voice that his announcement about the ascendancy will work.

That said, it might be better to apply Occam's razor here and not get too caught in the idea that the gods are bait. Balance both possibilities:

1. The voice wants the gods themselves to gather.
2. The voice is using the gods as bait for someone else.

That said, looking at the dialogue, I do think that when the voice said "This will bring them?", they did mean the gods.

Also, something about these lines…

"This conversation is irrelevant."
"Yes...I suppose you think it is."

There's something about the familiarity here. I don't mean it's like Sliske recently met the master, so they understand them. It's like they've known them for quite some time. Or if they're a Dragonkin or an Elder God, it's because they belong to a group that Sliske would have a general understanding of.

01-Jul-2016 15:00:15

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