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I'm 100% sure it is the Sixth Elder God.

To combat those saying "Elder Gods refer to it as the Siphon, not the Staff", that's probably not true with the Sixth Elder God. It's entirely plausible (and I think likely) that whatever has caused this Elder to be "not of form" has also likely precluded its work on the current universe, including the use of the Artifacts as tools. The Staff is only known as "the Siphon" because of its use as tool for the Elders. It is very possible that the Sixth was not aware of the terminology given to it by the Elders/Kras and only adopted the Staff terminology when used by Sliske. sTReTCh1028
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27-May-2016 18:44:26

Hazeel

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Raleirosen said :
We didn't permanently absorb any of that energy, though.

We did at the end of WGS. In the form of combat xp.

Sepulchre said :
Dragonkin? They want the big Z and Papa Smurf there
I think you mean Lil Z. Big Z would be Zaros.[/quote]

No, Zaros is Dr. Brown Bear. Zamorak is Big Z. Lil Z is um...err...let's not talk about that on the forums... Runescape doesn't need a hero...it needs a villain. An all encompassing force of evil that will remain ever-threatening and use chaos to make the peoples of Gielinor tolerate each other, grow strong together, and fight side by side against this evil. I am that villain.

27-May-2016 19:20:10

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Raleirosen said :
Hazeel said :
We did at the end of WGS. In the form of combat xp.
I'll assume you're being facetious.

I'm actually not.

Idria: Ah, Player, I'm glad you're still around. Do you remember I said that something has changed about you?

Player: Changed?

Idria: Yes, it must have been due to the close proximity of the Stone of Jas. Some change has taken place; some unexpressed potential - we saw that when you fought the demons, or at least the residue of your contact with the Stone. I think I can release the rest of it, but you will have to direct its flow. Are you ready?

Player: I guess so...

Idria manages to unlock some of your stored potential, giving you 100000 XP in Skill name

As far as I can tell, this is us gaining a permanent boost from the stone. Runescape doesn't need a hero...it needs a villain. An all encompassing force of evil that will remain ever-threatening and use chaos to make the peoples of Gielinor tolerate each other, grow strong together, and fight side by side against this evil. I am that villain.

27-May-2016 22:23:16

Raleirosen

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Hazeel said :
I'm actually not.

Idria: Ah, Player, I'm glad you're still around. Do you remember I said that something has changed about you?

Player: Changed?

Idria: Yes, it must have been due to the close proximity of the Stone of Jas. Some change has taken place; some unexpressed potential - we saw that when you fought the demons, or at least the residue of your contact with the Stone. I think I can release the rest of it, but you will have to direct its flow. Are you ready?

Player: I guess so...

Idria manages to unlock some of your stored potential, giving you 100000 XP in Skill name

As far as I can tell, this is us gaining a permanent boost from the stone*
Ah... good recall, then. Although I still doubt it's the same as taking power from the Stone in the way that a False User would, especially given the "stored potential" line. Patrolling Lore FC almost makes you wish for a Great Revision.

27-May-2016 23:26:32 - Last edited on 27-May-2016 23:26:46 by Raleirosen

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This isn't really a theory as to who Sliske's master is...yet... but I wanted to share a related theory about the questline:

In Dishonor Among Thieves, we fight a "shadow" of our inner demons conjured by Sliske. The odd thing about this is that this shadow version of ourselves is supposedly from the future. But wait, it was also referred to as FORESHADOW. That fight alone foreshadows future events of the questline, and at first I thought it might be just the inner turmoil experienced by our character in Kindred Spirits, but it didn't really mesh well in my mind for the Foreshadow to be foreshadowing, well, that. But I do think it foreshadows something that will happen later down the line. I posit that Sliske will at some point successfully cast a spell on our character to turn us into a wight, and this will lead to an internal conflict which will be developed frankly however Jagex supposes it should be. This is an extremely appealing idea because it satisfies a very large portion of the lore-invested player base, for more than one reason.

And if the wight thing does not happen...Well, I still think a central feature of the sliske's endgame will be heavily based in internal conflict. Sliske is probably going to entirely blow our minds, and he already is. Already some of us are beginning to doubt the authenticity of Zaros, the Dragonkin, other Gods, other Mahjarrat. This confusion about who Sliske's master is will (hopefully) play a large psychological role in the later quests, assuming our player did not immediately know who it was but instead knew simply how to manipulate Sliske's power with the shadow focus.

28-May-2016 02:24:24

Lord Drakan
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I'll bet you it's Zaros. Could be some funky Elder God offspring thing inside the Stone, but then Sliske would not have turned *away* from the Stone when speaking to it, and it's been confirmed not to be a new character, nor Xau-Tak. That said, Zaros would not have been present either...

Could be a Dragonkin; Sliske helps them by gathering a bunch of False Users for them to unleash their wrath upon, AND he helps Zaros by distracting the gods from his return AND assembling the Dragonkin so he can deal with them. So yeah, the mysterious voice could be a Dragonkin or Zaros, if you ask me, but Sliske plans benefit only Zaros (and himself) in the end.

PS. Recall that the Stone of Jas possesses some degree of sentience. Which is unsettling. Bizarre Boron Fusswell, scryer extraordinaire. OSRS: POH ideas & RS3 minigames & achievement ideas !

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28-May-2016 14:31:41 - Last edited on 28-May-2016 14:32:53 by Lord Drakan

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Lord Drakan said :
I'll bet you it's Zaros. Could be some funky Elder God offspring thing inside the Stone, but then Sliske would not have turned *away* from the Stone when speaking to it, and it's been confirmed not to be a new character, nor Xau-Tak. That said, Zaros would not have been present either...

Could be a Dragonkin; Sliske helps them by gathering a bunch of False Users for them to unleash their wrath upon, AND he helps Zaros by distracting the gods from his return AND assembling the Dragonkin so he can deal with them. So yeah, the mysterious voice could be a Dragonkin or Zaros, if you ask me, but Sliske plans benefit only Zaros (and himself) in the end.

PS. Recall that the Stone of Jas possesses some degree of sentience. Which is unsettling.

Zaros would have had no other way to communicate with Sliske before Fate of the Gods outside of the communion portal at Senntisten, and that vision looks like it was in the vault from Dishonour Among Thieves. It's impossible for that to have been Zaros.

As for the Dragonkin, it had to have at least been one who isn't a Necrosy*te. Is anyone satisfied with Sliske's explanation on how he got the Staff of Armadyl?

Sliske: "Why do you think I trapped this dragonkin specifically? I could have taken my pick. They're all the same, really. Strisath was unlucky enough to be guarding the staff. He couldn't have left it unattended now, could he?"

Strisath just… wanders into the Shadow Realm with the Staff of Armadyl? No, I think someone - probably the mysterious voice or - sent Strisath after Sliske.

28-May-2016 16:12:56

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Here's what I gather happened. The mysterious voice needed Sliske to orchestrate a gathering of the gods. Sliske decides the Stone of Jas would be the perfect bait. The mysterious voice, for some reason, seems to be more familiar with the Staff than the Stone, but understands the connection between the two. So the voice needs to get the Staff to Sliske in order to find the Stone. Somehow, the voice knows Strisath has the Staff of Armadyl, and sends Strisath after Sliske. Sliske traps Strisath and gets the Staff, and that brings us to Missing, Presumed Death.

I don't necessarily agree that Sliske's master is a Dragonkin, although it would segue perfectly into how I think the next Sixth Age pillar Jagex focuses on should be about the Dragonkin. The most I'll say right now is that there is absolutely a connection between the voice and the Dragonkin, and the Staff of Armadyl is related to that. So who would be familiar with the Staff and the Dragonkin, but not see the Stone of Jas as anything more than bait?

28-May-2016 16:21:46

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