Forums

Sliske's Master? (KS spoilers)

Quick find code: 341-342-944-65794814

Loristic

Loristic

Posts: 349 Silver Posts by user Forum Profile RuneMetrics Profile
I'm really doubting Zaros being Sliske's master because of the events in Fot* and also because of the manner in which Sliske's master speaks. Sliske literally betrayed Zaros in that quest by convincing us to sabotage his return. It doesn't make sense to me that Zaros stills wants to give orders to Sliske when he "has us" after the quest. The other thing related to that unknown voice is that it sounds too rude and impatient for Zaros. Zaros spoke to us patiently and kindly and even to Sliske despite the betrayal.

I think Guthix could be ruled out too since he is dead and he is not nihilistic and angry like the unknown voice. In addition of that, Sliske wants destruction in Gielinor whereas Zaros and Guthix don't want (Zaros wants more targeted due to the elder gods, but I think Sliske wouldn't enjoy that. Although Zaros is Machiavellian, to me he doesn't fit for Sliske's master anymore).

Kerapac has become in my opinion a good candidate after re-reading multiple posts related to him. Both the voice and him are quite rude and impatient (Kerapac can be quite eager to break the curse). The voice could also belong to a Necrosy*te dragonkin because by killing all the false users (many of the gods) the curse eases.

I'm not sure if examining that Sliske's Endgame artwork where the Stone of Jas breaks apart behind smiling Sliske could have an answer; the Stone of Jas might break up (if I recall right, there has been a thread about that theory...) so Sliske's master might want to destroy the Stone, so it fits well that Kerapac is working with Sliske. Also note that we went to Daemonheim in Kindred Spirits and discovered there a dragonkin lair before getting caught by a Sliske's wight. In One of a Kind, we went to visit Kerapac's laboratory behind Daemonheim so it may be so that Kerapac owns that prison... and Kerapac was also arranging Sliske's Saw-like game in Kindred Spirits.
Loristic, the Seeker of Lore, the Archivist of Knowledge, the World Guardian, the Diplomat of Cabbages, and the Regent of Miscellania. May anima mundi be with you and hail Guthix!

24-May-2016 19:52:02

Griem Reaper

Griem Reaper

Posts: 5 Bronze Posts by user Forum Profile RuneMetrics Profile
Just curious, why do you think it's Zaros? While it is entirely possible that Sliske is still Zaros' underhanded secret police go-to guy after all this time (even despite the "excommunication" theatrics), the text for the voice influencing Sliske did not seem like Zaros to me personally. It seemed to have a different personality than what I recall from Fate of the Gods. And since Xau Tak is also out of the picture the logical explanation would be the elder father or the only elder male god or tumeken tho that is unreliable.

24-May-2016 21:00:47

Lord Aryzth

Lord Aryzth

Posts: 4,410 Adamant Posts by user Forum Profile RuneMetrics Profile
I'm not even convinced he has a master, at least not truly. When watching the vision I got the impression of Sliske making use of this 'alliance' for want of a better word for his own ends, and the "I live to serve" almost a sarcastic aside rather than a genuine pledge of allegiance. Not to mention considering Sliske's duplicitous nature, everything he says should be taken with a pinch of salt and put under scrutiny. I wouldn't be surprised if he pulled a fast one on this entity by the end of it (although depending on who or what it is, it may not end well for Sliske this time).

24-May-2016 21:08:59

Tlamovec

Tlamovec

Posts: 633 Steel Posts by user Forum Profile RuneMetrics Profile
I guess that it's Shadow Realm itself - Sixth Elder god that turned into a Shadow Realm itself. It can be more like symbiosis - it gives Sliske knowledge, motivation, power and shadow realm ( ;) ) for service - expanding shadow realm by his manipulations and carrying tasks that it's incapable of doing itself, having no body and being locked (made of ) another dimension.

24-May-2016 21:24:06 - Last edited on 24-May-2016 21:24:38 by Tlamovec

Uncle Harper
Jul Member 2015

Uncle Harper

Posts: 396 Silver Posts by user Forum Profile RuneMetrics Profile
I agree this was a great quest. And I find myself with a question more concerning/frustrating than Sliske's (possible) master, what exactly did the World Guardian learn from Sliske's secrets that upset him so badly? Sliske flat out said the world guardian now knows his plan. Each of us is the world guardian but I haven't a clue what is true plan is. It's like our player character knows a secret even we don't know. Or maybe the plan is laid out in front of us and we're over thinking it. I have seen the dark universe yawning, where the black planets roll without aim;
Where they roll in their horror unheeded, without knowledge or lustre or name.

24-May-2016 21:48:18

Janos Morgan
Jul Member 2009

Janos Morgan

Posts: 4,081 Adamant Posts by user Forum Profile RuneMetrics Profile
I think Sliske's "master" is himself, and, therefore, the cutscene is him talking to himself. Perhaps Sliske has some form of multiple personality disorder?

My evidence for this is from Zaros, who says that "Sliske has only ever been loyal to himself" . I don't think Sliske would be a follower of Xau-Tak, it just seems too obvious.
Janos Morgan of Asgarnia
World Guardian of Guthix
|
Guide for the Lost
|
Lore Master and Quester

A look of fury, a look of pain, a look of hatred you can trust. A smile can hide anything.

24-May-2016 22:40:11 - Last edited on 24-May-2016 22:40:52 by Janos Morgan

Rondstat

Rondstat

Posts: 2,770 Adamant Posts by user Forum Profile RuneMetrics Profile
I didn't think this was meant to be a huge mystery. I mean, the specific identity, sure, that's hidden, but I was under the impression we were supposed to be able to get a general idea of the type of entity this 'master' represents.


-Someone aggressively cold and passionless, who places no value on niceties or digressions

-Someone with a knowledge of the Staff of Armadyl's location (while in the claws of the Necrosy*tes) and how to use it to reverse-engineer the Kin's connection to the Stone of Jas

-Someone whose primary goal is to assemble the gods, all of whom covet the Catalyst, in one place outside their fortresses, where they will be most vulnerable


His 'master' is a Dragonkin, or an entity with a very strong connection to the Kin. No one understands the Stone of Jas and its effects better than the Dactyl. No one else has quite as much desire to see the gods (Sara and Zammy in particular) destroyed. It could be Kerapac. It could be a rogue Dactyl yet unseen. It could be some Dragonkin (or even former-Draognkin) out of legend - the four-armed Kin idol comes to mind.

What I'm most interested to see is just HOW a Dragonkin managed to subjugate Sliske - or whether Sliske is really serving this master at all (he probably isn't).

25-May-2016 03:07:18

Cthris
Dec Member 2023

Cthris

Posts: 5,206 Rune Posts by user Forum Profile RuneMetrics Profile
I don't think its the dragonkin. One of the only things we know about the yellow text dude is that he/she doesn't understand art.

At least some dragonkin understand art. Just look at daemonhiem. There are tons of statues spread about their castle. They must care and understand art. They also are known to make these elaborate murals as well.

Kerapac is the only one we've seen that acts like a robot and even the other dactyl seem to have made him an outcast. It is unlikely he is the yellow text dude because we've heard his voice before so we should have recognized it in the cutscene.

25-May-2016 03:22:57

Rondstat

Rondstat

Posts: 2,770 Adamant Posts by user Forum Profile RuneMetrics Profile
Cthris said :
I don't think its the dragonkin. One of the only things we know about the yellow text dude is that he/she doesn't understand art.



Yes, the Dragonkin do value art. The Dragonkin form epitomizes a perfection of structure and beauty that emerges in their sculpture and architecture, much as the human form did for the ancient Greeks. We see this in Brimhaven and the QBD dungeon.

HOWEVER these structures date to at least the First Age, and possibly earlier. A time when the SoJ was either not being abused, or only having its power drawn on indirectly. Dragonkin architecture underwent a massive shift sometime between the late 1st and 3rd Age, transforming into the far more utilitarian forms we see in Daemonheim and elsewhere. When consumed by the itch, the Kin have no use for art - or anything else that doesn't serve their cause.

Sorry, that was probably far wordier than it had to be. Dragonkin are my particular interest in the game, so I kinda relish the opportunity to explain them.

25-May-2016 03:42:45

Cthris
Dec Member 2023

Cthris

Posts: 5,206 Rune Posts by user Forum Profile RuneMetrics Profile
But do you really think that the use of the stone causes them to forget everything they know about art? It definitely might shift their hierarchy of needs, which explains why they don't create it anymore, but I don't think they would loose their understanding of it.

25-May-2016 03:52:31 - Last edited on 25-May-2016 03:53:28 by Cthris

Quick find code: 341-342-944-65794814 Back to Top