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Hazeel

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Kemtros said :
Probably one of the Mahjarrat. Of the Zarosians, I don't think there's much reason to spare Akthanakos or Wahisietel. Some of the Zamorakians could also be at risk.

Well let's see who still has story content...

Khazard: Who's the Dad, what does it mean?

Bilrach: Daemonheim. Race's survival (portals).

Sliske: Endgame.

Hazeel: Ardougne Takeover.

Enakhra: Race's survival (breeding).

Kharshai: Ending the fued (which could be done in FOTG2).

Everyone else--even Azzanadra and Moia--are fair game because they don't really have any story arcs to continue or start. Runescape doesn't need a hero...it needs a villain. An all encompassing force of evil that will remain ever-threatening and use chaos to make the peoples of Gielinor tolerate each other, grow strong together, and fight side by side against this evil. I am that villain.

02-Sep-2016 17:23:22

Zulkir

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Hazeel said :
Kemtros said :
Probably one of the Mahjarrat. Of the Zarosians, I don't think there's much reason to spare Akthanakos or Wahisietel. Some of the Zamorakians could also be at risk.

Well let's see who still has story content...

Khazard: Who's the Dad, what does it mean?

Bilrach: Daemonheim. Race's survival (portals).

Sliske: Endgame.

Hazeel: Ardougne Takeover.

Enakhra: Race's survival (breeding).

Kharshai: Ending the fued (which could be done in FOTG2).

Everyone else--even Azzanadra and Moia--are fair game because they don't really have any story arcs to continue or start.

Azzanadra is a massive source of reactive and recapping Lore, as well as being tied to the Elder god storyline by being tasked to find the halls, we're to supply him with information after all. he is the last Mahjarrat that should die, if any.

Moia I'd rather not see die. We haven't had much time with her apart from one mediocre level quest, she's also one of the only none hostile Zamorakian NPCS. Remember when your own faction was against you despite your loyalty? Take her out and it's The World Wakes all over again.

Khazard is useless for future stories, it's blatantly obvious who his dad is. I doubt Zamorak is big on daddy son bonding quest time. And Neither would I be.

Wahisietel much like Azzanadra, though in a lesser sense, is a recapper of Lore. We need him .

Akthanakos and Enakhra I could see destroying each other, it'd be a fitting end although I'd like to get to know Akthanakos before then, He's seriously had the least dialogue :(

Zemouregal has had his time in the spotlight, he's watered down Lucien with pisspoor Necromancy skills. He can die for all I care.

Hazeel, very boring. A way more pleasant Mahjarrat than I ever expected, but christ taking over Ardounge is such a puny ambition.
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02-Sep-2016 19:06:06 - Last edited on 02-Sep-2016 19:08:29 by Zulkir

Hazeel

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Azzanadra doesn't need to find the Elder Halls. Anyone--including Zaros--could do that...hell if anyone should find it, it should be Zaros, Seren, or the WG. As for recapping, he and Wahisietel can be replaced with any generic NPC that would recap our adventures.

Moia would be an unfortunate waste, because I would rather explore her character more, but on the other hand, the story doesn't really need her either.

The identity of Khazard's father is unimportant tbh. What's more interesting is what it means, why it happened, how it happened, the impact it may have on their race, as well as the oracle's prediction for Khazard and how having a God as a father might make a difference for him. (Hazeel would likely be prominent in this too, but I'm just hoping to see the Ardougne storyline be very heavy in choice)

Akthanakos and Zemorugal are both pretty expendable, especially Akthanakos who has nothing going for him. Zemourgal would be an unfortunate loss of a character, but honestly his story is done. Runescape doesn't need a hero...it needs a villain. An all encompassing force of evil that will remain ever-threatening and use chaos to make the peoples of Gielinor tolerate each other, grow strong together, and fight side by side against this evil. I am that villain.

02-Sep-2016 19:24:44

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I'm personally rather interested in how Wahisietel will react to his isolation from the rest of the Zarosian faction. Patrolling Lore FC almost makes you wish for a Great Revision.

02-Sep-2016 19:45:39 - Last edited on 02-Sep-2016 19:46:25 by Raleirosen

Zulkir

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Hazeel said :
Azzanadra doesn't need to find the Elder Halls. Anyone--including Zaros--could do that...hell if anyone should find it, it should be Zaros, Seren, or the WG. As for recapping, he and Wahisietel can be replaced with any generic NPC that would recap our adventures.

But that's his task, and he's already made progress which keeps him anchored to the storyline. Azzanadra will be with us for a long time, likely permanently.

No generic NPC can take the place of either of them, their opinions are heavily linked to what they say and it would be difficult to express them through some no named NPC.

I doubt Khazard having a god as a father will do much except warp his typical sense of self importance to even higher levels, As for what it means, not much. Zamorak wasn't a god by the time he poked Palkeera, so he's just a plain low level Mahjarrat.

Edit: I find it impossible for Khazard to be Zaros's spawn. God babies have Demi-God status, thus immortal unless killed and since Khazard suffers from ritual requirement, we can safely assume he isn't one, and ergo not the spawn of a god.
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02-Sep-2016 20:06:50 - Last edited on 02-Sep-2016 20:12:23 by Zulkir

Hazeel

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All Wahi has to offer is generic pro-Zarosian rhetoric along with a recap. Any bitter bandit could do the same. Same with Azzanadra.

Although to be honest, the only two deaths that makes sense are Moia, Azzandra, and Kharshai. Nothing else would have an impact and would just be wasteful.

As for Khazard...

1) Zamorak and Zaros are both Gods, so that's moot.

2) Who says they physically bred?

3) The only Demi-Gods we have came from two God parents, not one. Runescape doesn't need a hero...it needs a villain. An all encompassing force of evil that will remain ever-threatening and use chaos to make the peoples of Gielinor tolerate each other, grow strong together, and fight side by side against this evil. I am that villain.

02-Sep-2016 20:35:38 - Last edited on 02-Sep-2016 20:36:45 by Hazeel

Zulkir

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Hazeel said :
All Wahi has to offer is generic pro-Zarosian rhetoric along with a recap. Any bitter bandit could do the same. Same with Azzanadra.

Although to be honest, the only two deaths that makes sense are Moia, Azzandra, and Kharshai. Nothing else would have an impact and would just be wasteful.

As for Khazard...

1) Zamorak and Zaros are both Gods, so that's moot.

2) Who says they physically bred?

3) The only Demi-Gods we have came from two God parents, not one.

No. They really couldn't. I think you're vastly underestimating Azzanadras importance to the story and the dialogue he offers. He's been set up as our goto for locating the Elder halls, an enormous focus for the future, and I repeat. No generic Bandit can deliver his dialogue that expresses his knowledge of events or opinions. it would be a huge waste.

1. What part of my argument is moot exactly?

2. You think Mahjarrat join hands and chant a magic spell to conceive a child? That's a very innocent outlook. Palkeera as far as we know carried Khazard like a human mother would. So we can assume, unless like I said that awfully cute innocent idea of no intimacy being involved in their creation happens to be true, they are best assumed created physically.

3. More or less 50% of each parent is incorporated into a baby, could just be my personal thoughts but Demi gods to me are "Half" gods. In any case if a god were his father, we would of sure as hell seen Khazard stand out from the rest. Not just some old "I had it in me all along!" trope.
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02-Sep-2016 20:48:08 - Last edited on 02-Sep-2016 20:51:19 by Zulkir

Hazeel

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Maybe the first time...but after that, it's just history. Any bandit can tell you about the glory of Senntisten or rage and moan because their opponets decided to fight back. No they weren't there, but that's hardly important for the sake of a recap.

But if anyone dies, it will probably be obvious from the start, depending on what requirements they ask of us.

1) Saying that Khazard shows no sign of Godhood, ergo Zaros can't be the Father since he's a God....even though Zamorak is a God.

2) Eh, I'll admit I'm thinking of an Anakin birth.

3) That's what a Demi God should be but looking at Runescape's examples (Amascut, Icthlarin) that's not the case. And based on the oracle's prophecy for Khazard, it does sound like "hidden potential". Runescape doesn't need a hero...it needs a villain. An all encompassing force of evil that will remain ever-threatening and use chaos to make the peoples of Gielinor tolerate each other, grow strong together, and fight side by side against this evil. I am that villain.

02-Sep-2016 20:55:43 - Last edited on 02-Sep-2016 20:57:33 by Hazeel

Zulkir

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Hazeel said :
Maybe the first time...but after that, it's just history. Any bandit can tell you about the glory of Senntisten or rage and moan because their opponets decided to fight back. No they weren't there, but that's hardly important for the sake of a recap.

But if anyone dies, it will probably be obvious from the start, depending on what requirements they ask of us.

1) Saying that Khazard shows no sign of Godhood, ergo Zaros can't be the Father since he's a God....even though Zamorak is a God.

2) Eh, I'll admit I'm thinking of an Anakin birth.

3) That's what a Demi God should be but looking at Runescape's examples (Amascut, Icthlarin) that's not the case. And based on the oracle's prophecy for Khazard, it does sound like "hidden potential".

1) Zaros is "More of" a god than Zamorak, More power pooled into the gene pool as it were, Zaros also isn't a Mahjarrat, and like I mentioned before a child is a mix of both parents, Khazard is entirely Mahjarrat, No divine simulacrum crystal being physical traits, at all.

2) Bad Hazeel. Ollie is a better writer than that.

3) You mean "The final dream will reach its full potential"? Eh. I suppose I'm anchored down too much by Khazard being so..lame. Just an ordinary Mahjarrat, not even an extraordinary one by any means, power or lorewise. Sliske has sunk his shadow realm access, we've fought him off incredibly easily, But somehow he'll pull his half god heritage out of his ass "Now"? Ehh.
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