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Derack
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Virsmas said :
Someone bring order to these hopeless heretics shut up! *throws a cabbage*
"If you believe you can distance yourself from the harm you cause, you're deluding yourself. You're not some mindless tool. You're accountable. Your actions will catch up with you eventually." -Jedi Master Jun Seros; Swtor Bounty Hunter storyline.

31-Dec-2013 00:26:45

Unicornz pwn
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A Mighty said :
This is one of the best threads I've seen around here in a while..
Thanks! I had hoped this thread would have gotten more traffic but what did I expect after giving it a hopelessly boring title and opening it up with a 10,000 word manifesto?
:P
"Ego Te Provoco."

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31-Dec-2013 04:20:46

Cybernet377
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Nelfarion44 said :
Wonder where the Saradominist Zealots are... Probably jjst brushed this thread over and called it heresy.

That's why Saradomin hates all of the other gods.

They're all filthy xeno scum that are trying to steal the genes of his soldiers.

31-Dec-2013 04:43:59 - Last edited on 31-Dec-2013 04:44:22 by Cybernet377

Unicornz pwn
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Cybernet377 said :
Nelfarion44 said :
Wonder where the Saradominist Zealots are... Probably jjst brushed this thread over and called it heresy.

That's why Saradomin hates all of the other gods.

They're all filthy xeno scum that are trying to steal the genes of his soldiers.
Wut...
"Ego Te Provoco."

The Hooded Zarosian

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31-Dec-2013 06:28:23

Zebub

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Luseda said :
That is not a paradox. It's an inevitability. There is no fundamental contradiction. I have two examples.

Flip a coin.

Heads- get a red apple
Tails- get a red apple

No matter what, the outcome will always be "get a red apple", despite the fact that different events cause you to get it. This is one you could test out.

Ignore Zaros and fate for a moment. No matter what, Owen is brought back to life with a corrupted arm. That's just how it goes. Is that a paradox?

Both examples are inevitabilities, not paradoxes.
The paradox is that you've a false choice, the wrong choice gets manipulated in the right choice. It is not about what YOU wish but about Zaros' wish.

Nope that is the High Company God.



~ There must be
Tranquillity
and
Conflict
,
Liberty
and
Control
,
Order
and
Chaos
,
Collectivity
and
Individuality
, there must be...
Balance
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31-Dec-2013 08:40:13

Zebub

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Unicornz pwn said :
And Guthix's philosophy is just as flawed. You should try to stop chaos that arises, not let it fester and grow just because order was previously there, for the sake of balance.
This seems to move on my terrain...

Actually your vision of balance is a bit flawed. It is never just for balance's sakes. Balance is about seeing when order/chaos becomes too dominant and destructive. It is not because op moment A there is order that it should be balanced with chaos. For balance you'll need to see to three things:
1) Time, how long is order/chaos reigning.
2) Place, what places are orderly/chaotic?
3) Effect, chaos has a stronger, immediate effect while order is more long-term.

If you see that order has been too long at the same place and that's its goal has been reached, then balanced people will strive for chaos. It is certainly not the destructive type of Zamorak.



~ There must be
Tranquillity
and
Conflict
,
Liberty
and
Control
,
Order
and
Chaos
,
Collectivity
and
Individuality
, there must be...
Balance
! Join the 9th faction: Guthix! ~
~ There must be Tranquillity and Conflict, Liberty and Control, Order and Chaos, Collectivity and Individuality, there must be... Balance! ~

31-Dec-2013 08:57:23

Unicornz pwn
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Zebub said :
Luseda said :
That is not a paradox. It's an inevitability. There is no fundamental contradiction. I have two examples.

Flip a coin.

Heads- get a red apple
Tails- get a red apple

No matter what, the outcome will always be "get a red apple", despite the fact that different events cause you to get it. This is one you could test out.

Ignore Zaros and fate for a moment. No matter what, Owen is brought back to life with a corrupted arm. That's just how it goes. Is that a paradox?

Both examples are inevitabilities, not paradoxes.
The paradox is that you've a false choice, the wrong choice gets manipulated in the right choice. It is not about what YOU wish but about Zaros' wish.

Nope that is the High Company God.



~ There must be
Tranquillity
and
Conflict
,
Liberty
and
Control
,
Order
and
Chaos
,
Collectivity
and
Individuality
, there must be...
Balance
! Join the 9th faction: Guthix! ~
This has nothing to do with Zaros. The paradox is that in order to achieve order Saradomin must destroy chaos, however, in destroying chaos one destroys order. Zaros was never brought up by me.
"Ego Te Provoco."

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31-Dec-2013 19:02:33

Unicornz pwn
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Zebub said :
Unicornz pwn said :
And Guthix's philosophy is just as flawed. You should try to stop chaos that arises, not let it fester and grow just because order was previously there, for the sake of balance.
This seems to move on my terrain...

Actually your vision of balance is a bit flawed. It is never just for balance's sakes. Balance is about seeing when order/chaos becomes too dominant and destructive. It is not because op moment A there is order that it should be balanced with chaos. For balance you'll need to see to three things:
1) Time, how long is order/chaos reigning.
2) Place, what places are orderly/chaotic?
3) Effect, chaos has a stronger, immediate effect while order is more long-term.

If you see that order has been too long at the same place and that's its goal has been reached, then balanced people will strive for chaos. It is certainly not the destructive type of Zamorak.



~ There must be
Tranquillity
and
Conflict
,
Liberty
and
Control
,
Order
and
Chaos
,
Collectivity
and
Individuality
, there must be...
Balance
! Join the 9th faction: Guthix! ~
I was referring to the part of the Guthixian quiz in TWW where you choose to let the earthquake or whatever natural disaster occur for the sake of balance. Zamorak would have also allowed it to happen but he would have done it to allow the denizens of that area be prepared for the next one, not just to maintain balance.
"Ego Te Provoco."

The Hooded Zarosian

Lorehound Extraordinaire

31-Dec-2013 19:04:59

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