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Vardan

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ZAmorakZaros said :
This is the reason for me to not to follow saradomin. I follow zamorak, zaros and seren instead.
Zamorak and Zaros I can see since both want you to overcome your limitations, but Zaros demands you put him first, whereas Zamorak wants you to put yourself first. Seren though, I don't see how you can follow her philosophy since she wants you to live in peace with others. How do you follow all three?
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04-Aug-2014 16:45:23

ZAmorakZaros
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Vardan said :
ZAmorakZaros said :
This is the reason for me to not to follow saradomin. I follow zamorak, zaros and seren instead.
Zamorak and Zaros I can see since both want you to overcome your limitations, but Zaros demands you put him first, whereas Zamorak wants you to put yourself first. Seren though, I don't see how you can follow her philosophy since she wants you to live in peace with others. How do you follow all three?
Following seren is my backup plan. NO
I do not ship ZamorakxZaros.
I follow them. And Marimbo, the best t5 god.

04-Aug-2014 19:07:16

Macspie1

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Vardan said :
ZAmorakZaros said :
This is the reason for me to not to follow saradomin. I follow zamorak, zaros and seren instead.
Zamorak and Zaros I can see since both want you to overcome your limitations, but Zaros demands you put him first, whereas Zamorak wants you to put yourself first. Seren though, I don't see how you can follow her philosophy since she wants you to live in peace with others. How do you follow all three?

to be honest Zamorak also wants you to put him first. otherwise he wouldn't set his mages on some kind of "leash" with the robes of sub.

05-Aug-2014 01:07:52

Cthris
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Macspie1 said :
Vardan said :
ZAmorakZaros said :
This is the reason for me to not to follow saradomin. I follow zamorak, zaros and seren instead.
Zamorak and Zaros I can see since both want you to overcome your limitations, but Zaros demands you put him first, whereas Zamorak wants you to put yourself first. Seren though, I don't see how you can follow her philosophy since she wants you to live in peace with others. How do you follow all three?

to be honest Zamorak also wants you to put him first. otherwise he wouldn't set his mages on some kind of "leash" with the robes of sub.

I would say its more like Zamorak puts himself first, but doesn't care who you put first.

05-Aug-2014 01:33:10

Orcrist9
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Hmm, not really sure how to respond to this other than with a big resounding "no." You state that Order is impossible for Saradomin to achieve, and yet you provide the parameters by which Order can be achieved "Saradomin wishes to create a world without chaos and ensure order reigns. This is impossible. It is impossible to achieve infinite order unless one has total dominance over everything. Over nature, over people, over everything as stated before."

Well, there's one paradox, or contradiction rather. Don't get me wrong, I don't support Saradomin or Zamorak any one way -- I'm more of a Zarosian, but preferred Guthix (and secretly I believe this is actually an online game and none of this lore stuff is actually real or will ever even matter-- revolutionary, right?). That's being said, I think it's fair to say I'm rather objective on the subject of Saradomin and Zamorak, and Order and Chaos respectively (at least as it applies to RS).

"If one completely destroys chaos, which is impossible, one destroys order." While that's very romantic of you to say, it also doesn't make a lick of sense. That's like saying by destroying death you destroy life (I am not saying Chaos is death and Order is life, so please don't take that out of context) -- it just doesn't work because it's a contradiction.

Chaos and Order are polar opposites, some things are black and white without grey areas, and when we try to incorporate everything as a single grey, blotchy mass, we only make idiots out ourselves by overlooking the simple and basic principles upon which many things stand.

Nextly, you say that Order is not a philosophy, but, well, Order actually is a philosophy as much as Chaos is a philosophy, and technically, wisdom is a philosophy as well. A philosophy is really simply a driving purpose by which someone lives their life, and you can center you're life around gaining wisdom.

To cut it short, I disagree with you.
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