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Neo Bestia

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Anenemus said :
My opinion of Order and Chaos with an example.

Suppose a man wants an apple. I'll give you two examples of how Order and Chaos can help him.

Order: The man gets what he wants from a higher authority and gets it when he needs it. This makes the man dependant on the higher authority.

Chaos: The man gets the POWER to get the apple whenever he wants. This makes the man independant and rely only on himself.

Just my two cents.

I would classify that as one of the more extreme versions of Order and one of the most lenient forms of Chaos.

10-May-2014 18:06:19

Unicornz pwn
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Sapun said :
Capitalism - Chaos.
Socialism/Monarchy/Communism - Order.

Easiest way to put it.
While that may be the easiest I'm not sure if it is the most accurate.

First we must look to see if the chaos is structured and meant to serve a purpose or if it is anarchic in nature.

Capitalism would be an example of the former.

Socialism is by far the most closely linked to Saradomin as he is the center of his own religion and philosophy. Without him his philosophy is pointless, while as Zamorak is not needed for his philosophy's validity to continue.

So to sum this up nicely, Saradomin is like the state, and Zamorak is the people.

This is actually a very interesting way of looking at it.
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11-May-2014 06:39:43

Vardan

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Unicornz pwn said :
Sapun said :
Capitalism - Chaos.
Socialism/Monarchy/Communism - Order.

Easiest way to put it.
While that may be the easiest I'm not sure if it is the most accurate.

First we must look to see if the chaos is structured and meant to serve a purpose or if it is anarchic in nature.

Capitalism would be an example of the former.

Socialism is by far the most closely linked to Saradomin as he is the center of his own religion and philosophy. Without him his philosophy is pointless, while as Zamorak is not needed for his philosophy's validity to continue.

So to sum this up nicely, Saradomin is like the state, and Zamorak is the people.

This is actually a very interesting way of looking at it.
But flawed. Gielinor is mostly Saradominst and it is capitalist in those Saradominst countries. Varrock has the GE for example and Saradomin himself has not been shown to have any socialistic views beyond caring for the week. Also Saradomin isn't needed for there to be order again the Saradominst countries are proof of that. They are relatively orderly and work, for the most part, fine. None of the gods philosophies actually NEED the god to survive just look at Bandos. The only exception to this might be Zaros as he or Seren might be the only one capable of being the mortals invisible voice to power due to their unique origin.
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11-May-2014 22:54:46 - Last edited on 11-May-2014 22:55:44 by Vardan

Padomenes

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Chaos can be eliminated. See Entrana, a place devoid of any Chaos and there is so much order/law that assembled weapons and armour are banned and a spell prevents you from teleporting there with any. Now imagine if all of his empire becomes like this once there isn't anymore evil/malevolent gods left to fight.

There isn't much progress on Entrana but it's the most peaceful place on Gielinor.

It is possible to eliminate Chaos as seen with Entrana, a place under the total control of Order and Saradominism. The monks on Entrana also have some kind of omnipresent weapon detection surveillance so if you assemble or manage to smuggle a weapon onto the surface they will detect you doing it and teleport you to knock you out then boot you out.

Edit: Oh this thread was necrobumped by nelf, nevermind.

27-Jul-2014 04:25:05 - Last edited on 27-Jul-2014 04:35:14 by Padomenes

Chaos Lupus

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Padomenes said :
Chaos can be eliminated. See Entrana, a place devoid of any Chaos and there is so much order/law that assembled weapons and armour are banned and a spell prevents you from teleporting there with any. Now imagine if all of his empire becomes like this once there isn't anymore evil/malevolent gods left to fight.

There isn't much progress on Entrana but it's the most peaceful place on Gielinor.

It is possible to eliminate Chaos as seen with Entrana, a place under the total control of Order and Saradominism. The monks on Entrana also have some kind of omnipresent weapon detection surveillance so if you assemble or manage to smuggle a weapon onto the surface they will detect you doing it and teleport you to knock you out then boot you out.

Edit: Oh this thread was necrobumped by nelf, nevermind.

Chaos was not eliminated, it's a part of nature.

As for the omnipresent weapon detection system, they need a new one. The Assassin did a pretty good job of getting onto Entrana with his bow-sword and killing monks. All he needed was an orb on the island.
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27-Jul-2014 05:10:36

T Ancalagon
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Chaos Lupus said :
Padomenes said :
Chaos can be eliminated. See Entrana, a place devoid of any Chaos and there is so much order/law that assembled weapons and armour are banned and a spell prevents you from teleporting there with any. Now imagine if all of his empire becomes like this once there isn't anymore evil/malevolent gods left to fight.

There isn't much progress on Entrana but it's the most peaceful place on Gielinor.

It is possible to eliminate Chaos as seen with Entrana, a place under the total control of Order and Saradominism. The monks on Entrana also have some kind of omnipresent weapon detection surveillance so if you assemble or manage to smuggle a weapon onto the surface they will detect you doing it and teleport you to knock you out then boot you out.

Edit: Oh this thread was necrobumped by nelf, nevermind.

Chaos was not eliminated, it's a part of nature.

As for the omnipresent weapon detection system, they need a new one. The Assassin did a pretty good job of getting onto Entrana with his bow-sword and killing monks. All he needed was an orb on the island.

Also we are able to create weapons while there, thus causing chaos, also, where was the power of Saradomin when that malevolent tree spirit attacked?

Finally, there is no evidence to suggest that the power around Entrana is anything to do with Saradomin.. the monks believe that yes, but we should known as gamers, it is more likely due to the fact an elder God is asleep beneath Entrana or is the island it's self. Love the Lore and the RS Gods!

27-Jul-2014 11:04:50

T Ancalagon
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Also Pad*mnenes, just to add, the barrier on Entrana is nothing more than an out dated game mechanic to get us to be creative during the Lost City Quest... they attributed this to Saradomin at the time because lore was undefined and nothing that it is today. Love the Lore and the RS Gods!

27-Jul-2014 11:06:07

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