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RiDaku
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Without reading this thread yet, I'd like to say some very tasty things about Saradomin.

He was raised up in the minds of many, I feel, depending how the quest played out. For me, Zaros reached the portal first, and he chose to leave Saradomin to wander the maze alone.

Saradomin. The oldest of the Young Gods who, without his godhood, is literally just a frail old man. This frail old man, alone and faced with Zamorak and all his warriors, didn't even FLINCH. He was confident and even effortlessly shrugged off a jab at his trembling limbs. He was full-out ready to fight Zamorak and all of his lackies even though powered-down Zamorak is still a Mahjarrat, hilariously stronger than a human.

Saradomin has balls.

The God of Order also kept going all through the maze. He didn't falter, and if you raced him at the end, he most certainly did not let his age get the best of him. If that old bastard's as fast as armadyl, who was in a PRETTY GOOD JOG (i glitched, he walked for me, but he walked at the speed of sound), we see he's just as spry as ever.

Saradomin has strength.

He's confident, he's strong, and he's unwavering even faced with mortality against creatures impossibly stronger than him. I'm not a Saradominist by a long shot, no, I still answer to papa Zaros even after all that, but my god. Saradomin has the cajoles. Instant respect, and I think that was some much-needed insight on his character. Sadly, not much was gleamed from Armadyl or Zamorak that quest, at least nothing new. The Sicarius |
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10-Jan-2017 09:28:07

Padomenes

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RiDaku said :
Without reading this thread yet, I'd like to say some very tasty things about Saradomin.

He was raised up in the minds of many, I feel, depending how the quest played out. For me, Zaros reached the portal first, and he chose to leave Saradomin to wander the maze alone.

Saradomin. The oldest of the Young Gods who, without his godhood, is literally just a frail old man. This frail old man, alone and faced with Zamorak and all his warriors, didn't even FLINCH. He was confident and even effortlessly shrugged off a jab at his trembling limbs. He was full-out ready to fight Zamorak and all of his lackies even though powered-down Zamorak is still a Mahjarrat, hilariously stronger than a human.

Saradomin has balls.

The God of Order also kept going all through the maze. He didn't falter, and if you raced him at the end, he most certainly did not let his age get the best of him. If that old bastard's as fast as armadyl, who was in a PRETTY GOOD JOG (i glitched, he walked for me, but he walked at the speed of sound), we see he's just as spry as ever.

Saradomin has strength.

He's confident, he's strong, and he's unwavering even faced with mortality against creatures impossibly stronger than him. I'm not a Saradominist by a long shot, no, I still answer to papa Zaros even after all that, but my god. Saradomin has the cajoles. Instant respect, and I think that was some much-needed insight on his character. Sadly, not much was gleamed from Armadyl or Zamorak that quest, at least nothing new. You are talking about a guy who as a mortal worked for many years as a justiciar, dealing with life-threatening corruption & crime, so overwhelming and dangerous that any ordinary human would have found it a near impossible task. Even his family's lives were at stake he recounted so yeah, his had to survive alot of chaos during his lifetime.

10-Jan-2017 11:50:36

ZAmorakZaros
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RiDaku said :
Without reading this thread yet, I'd like to say some very tasty things about Saradomin.

He was raised up in the minds of many, I feel, depending how the quest played out. For me, Zaros reached the portal first, and he chose to leave Saradomin to wander the maze alone.

Saradomin. The oldest of the Young Gods who, without his godhood, is literally just a frail old man. This frail old man, alone and faced with Zamorak and all his warriors, didn't even FLINCH. He was confident and even effortlessly shrugged off a jab at his trembling limbs. He was full-out ready to fight Zamorak and all of his lackies even though powered-down Zamorak is still a Mahjarrat, hilariously stronger than a human.

Saradomin has balls.

The God of Order also kept going all through the maze. He didn't falter, and if you raced him at the end, he most certainly did not let his age get the best of him. If that old bastard's as fast as armadyl, who was in a PRETTY GOOD JOG (i glitched, he walked for me, but he walked at the speed of sound), we see he's just as spry as ever.

Saradomin has strength.

He's confident, he's strong, and he's unwavering even faced with mortality against creatures impossibly stronger than him. I'm not a Saradominist by a long shot, no, I still answer to papa Zaros even after all that, but my god. Saradomin has the cajoles. Instant respect, and I think that was some much-needed insight on his character. Sadly, not much was gleamed from Armadyl or Zamorak that quest, at least nothing new.
He knew not to show his weakness in front of enemies. That might be one thing. NO
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11-Jan-2017 09:32:00

Giras
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Padomenes said :
Aaand debunked:




Saradomin can't be bothered to manage the minor details...but that doesn't change the fact that his teachings and methods leave behind regimes that are stifled at best and tyrannical at worst. So all we know now is that rather than being in control as is his responsibility...he leaves it down to minions who screw it up.

We already knew that Saradomin would accept anyone who would bend over for him.

That's an oxymoron, if the race was sentient then they could've been reasoned with as they'd have the capacity to do so. If they were just a bunch of dangerous animals then there's no controversy.

Ohhh darn...how dare that Zamorak convert most of the Zarosians first forcing Saradomin to invade and destroy cities like Sennisten!
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18-Jan-2017 01:49:40

Hazeel

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Padomenes said :
Aaand debunked:





I would have normally believed the first one, but Saradomin saying that he ought to manage how we live our lives makes me very...skeptical. And, really, how free are you when you immediately get killed without warning just for suggesting diplomacy over war?

Race isn't the issue. It never was. While his followers are a bunch of racist bigots, that's not Saradomin's issue...his issue is a cultural one.

Perhaps. I'm completely open to the possibility that war was the only solution. Still, there were better ways of handling Garlandia and that's the issue many of us have. He could have sent her as ambassador of peace if she really believed in it, and show his followers what happens. At best, she miraculously succeeds and things are settled. At worst, they rip her wings off and look like a bunch of savages, rather than Saradomin looking like an unhinged maniac.

The last answer just disturbs me even more. I thought maybe Saradomin was trying to remove all traces of an evil empire and this was his way of protecting people...but apparently he can't even understand when he's committing genocide or enslaving an entire civilization. This shows he is well intentioned--and I never doubted that...but it also shows he is beyond reasoning with. He is literally incapable of understanding the consequences of his own actions. It's like discovering Bandos didn't realize that wars killed people or if Seren told us that her aura was good because it made people happy and brought love to their lives. Runescape doesn't need a hero...it needs a villain. An all encompassing force of evil that will remain ever-threatening and use chaos to make the peoples of Gielinor tolerate each other, grow strong together, and fight side by side against this evil. I am that villain.

18-Jan-2017 02:42:09

Padomenes

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It was an extremely dangerous and really really bad situation as mentioned. People can take desperate measures in desperate times. Also not his fault if he didn't think of the methods you suggested. That's all down to the writing.

How do you know

Driving to extinction isn't necessarily genocide, the god wars themselves drove countless races to extinction. Religious wars converted people that way. When you want to invade a territory and there are hostile forces that arise what do you expect to do? Just let them destroy you?

Heck Lord Drakan hunted down and killed Zarosians for Zamorak who refused to convert. Do you remember that lore piece where he found Azzanadra and a bunch of human loyalists? And what he did?

Saradomin had no interest in destroying all traces of the Zarosian Empire and only sought to become its new ruler to fix things. He only wanted to replace the religion with his and that was it, fill in Zaros' role for himself after Zamorak defeated him. Saradomin agreed with Zaros' position on order perhaps but only thought that he could not lead. He sought to liberate it under his rule which was better then the old order even Zaros himself admits.

What about the Zarosian humans among the mainstream population who chances are converted and became Saradominists as a means at first to put an end to Zamorak's "uprising" plus restore order as a way of life? That was likely how Saradomin may have gotten so many human followers. It's possible the modern day Saradominist religious institute teachings of Gielinor has many roots from what were Zarosian originally beliefs. Like "self control and patience" or that stuff the blue wizards preached.

Zamorak and his followers also hated Saradomin according to other sources like mahjarrat memories and tried to compare him to a continuation of "the ways of Zaros" when they weren't really alike. Eg. Humans are/were happier under his rule.

18-Jan-2017 06:06:58 - Last edited on 18-Jan-2017 06:14:48 by Padomenes

CD_Paladin_C

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All that Q&A did was remind us that Saradomin is a sociopath. "Your god's dead next time he's in a world event. "
-The Lore Community to our Saradominist Friends, Said During World Event 2, Proven During World Event 3.
#StopSaradomin

18-Jan-2017 06:07:33

Padomenes

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CD_Paladin_C said :
All that Q&A did was remind us that Saradomin is a sociopath. All you do in your posts is remind us you are undoubtably one yourself at best irl and the fact you like to judge others to make yourself feel good.

"Oh my gosh, why didn't Saradomin let the creatures kill all his icyene?! Such sociopath."

It's time to get a life and find something else better to do. You know go to the gym or something, find a sport you like etc to lose a couple of pounds. If you believe your anti-social personality disorder obstructs you from doing that then I would suggest you get some meds to help you deal with it.

18-Jan-2017 06:11:20 - Last edited on 18-Jan-2017 06:49:27 by Padomenes

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