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ChernoAlpha said :
1. Had Bandos triumphed over Armadyl during the Bird and the Beast, how would Zaros have convinced him to agree to the demonic pact that would ensure he got the Stone of Jas during Sliske's Endgame?


Bandos would have wanted Zanik back, and Raven says that if we'd been in that timeline, we would have written Nomad's Elegy with that plotline in mind.

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2. During the flashback in Children of Mah, Zaros seems very uncaring toward the Mahjarrat, and even slightly disgusted by them, dismissing them as glorified mercenaries who fight for whoever is at the top of the food chain. However, in his memories in Fate of the Gods, he seems to care about them, even thinking fondly of them as his younger siblings, intending to take them under his wing and for them to inherit his empire. Which is Zaros's actual view? Was his dialogue in Children of Mah just an outburst in anger at Zamorak's betrayal, an inconsistency between writers, or an attempt to make him more morally grey after how benevolent he seemed in FotG?


He was specifically angry at Zamorak rather than the Mahjarrat in general, and also possibly at himself. When a loyal ally who you convinced to join you betrays you again in turn, that does kind of look bad.

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3. It's been stated several times in the past that you cannot kill an Elder God. If this is the case, how did Seren manage it? Was Mah a special case due to her corruption and deformity, and having been drained of most of her divine energy by Zaros and the Mahjarrat?


I don't think this was ever stated in game. She was a special case though, as you describe. Having poured so much of her own divine energy into her creations, she didn't have much left. The others haven't done the same thing.

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4. How did Sliske not notice that we'd tampered with his control of the Shadow Realm between Kindred Spirits and Sliske's Endgame? Surely he'd have picked up on it pretty quickly considering how much he relies on it.


Not necessarily. He doesn't have complete mastery of it.

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5. Can we get an outright confirmation that Sliske avoided the drain on his energy from Mah by using the Stone of Jas?


Sure. Jas could also have been doing it personally.

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6. How did Sliske meet Jas, or is that a matter for future content?


If we explore this, it'll be in future content. I feel like everyone's had enough of Sliske for now though.

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7. Sliske supposedly wanted the Elder Gods woken up so they would destroy Gielinor and make the universe "interesting". However, wouldn't the Elder Gods end up destroying all the worlds for the Great Revision? Wouldn't a universe without life would be even more boring to Sliske? Surely, as a former member of Zaros's inner circle, he knew that the Elder Gods wouldn't stop with Gielinor?


What if the revision takes so long that it provides Sliske with entertainment for longer than he can stand it? What if he'd rather be destroyed than live forever in this boring world? What if he was actually stopping Jas from destroying the world? What if the plan that he told you wasn't his plan at all? What if his real plan was exactly what happened?

Re: Zaros, even Zaros himself doesn't know much about the Elder Gods and their methods and functions. I doubt he shared any of that knowledge, even their existence, with the Mahjarrat.

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8. Could we get godhood tiers for V, Xau-tak and the Queen of Ashes?


V: Tier 5
Xau-Tak: Tier √-1
Queen of Ashes: We haven't decided yet

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9. Is there any significance to Sliske petrifying upon his "death"? Only gods have been seen to do so, and Lucien, who was also impaled upon the Staff of Armadyl, ended up as a simple corpse. Is it to do with him having apparently transferred his soul to us?


Sliske had been exposed to multiple divinity-inspiring events, including killing Guthix (spoilers!), hanging around the stone, and even hanging around Jas. Although everyone made a huge deal about it in MPD, as with Azzanadra the line of divinity isn't that sharp in the case of Mahjarrat. For consistency, it probably ought to have been the case that Lucien turned to stone too.

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10. On that note, the ending of Sliske's Endgame heavily implies that Sliske has transferred his soul to us. However, the ability to escape ones' body upon death has been stated to be limited to Tier 2 gods. Does this mean that Sliske had secretly ascended, or was this only possible due to the circumstances involving both the player and Sliske having been stabbed with the staff?


Answering this would inherently spoil or conflict with future content which explores this development.

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11. We have had several hints that Azzanadra is somewhat less than sane, from his own memory, Nabor and Bilrach. Is there a significant reason for his insanity, such as prolonged exposure to Zaros's controlling aura, having been locked in a pyramid for millenia, or possibly even Xau-Tak shenanigans?


Probably! Being Pope probably isn't good for your sanity either, not to mention seeing your god killed and your entire empire destroyed. Plus his little brother, most of his entire race, his best bro Temekel, and so on. Azzanadra's had a rough life.

17-Jan-2017 19:45:59

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Scuzzy Beta said :
1) My understanding of the Arc's lore is that once a moai dies, the island becomes dilapidated, and all the plantlife dies. So how come Cyclosis is lush and green, when their moai is clearly dead?


It's a gradual process. Just as it takes time for a corpse to putrefy.

Since it's not something that could be advanced until the Skull, if at all, I guess that rotting carcass is going to be on ice for the forseeable future.

17-Jan-2017 19:46:11

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Cavi said :
Also, the Memorial of Guthix memories were beautifully written. Great job to whoever wrote them.


Thank you. :)
And thanks also to Mod MattHe and Mod Rowley who helped out with them.

17-Jan-2017 19:48:24

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Ava Enithesi said :
7. Following up from Question 6, I knew that there had been a Lores and Histories about Nomad, but all the information we would have gotten from it appears to have been used for Tales of Nomad instead. Is this the plan going forward? If so, can these be replayable, like the Tales of the God Wars scenes are?


Nomad was a special case, we decided that we would rather SHOW the story, rather than TELL it in a Lores and Histories.

We'd like to do more tales, but that doesn't preclude doing Lores and Histories.

Replay-ability is possible, but I won't commit to it here. ;)

Ava Enithesi said :
8. How canonically accurate are the ages stated for the GWD1 generals on Top Trumps?


Not terribly. They're a bit of a guideline, but they're not the exact age of the character. I wouldn't consider them canon.


Ava Enithesi said :
9. How did Vindicta get all those troops, who use Nex armors, Nex weapons, and in the case of the meleers, chaotic mauls?


She's really really badass.

Ava Enithesi said :
10. Will there be more backstory on the God Emissaries? (Could this be possible Lores and Histories fodder? :D )


Maybe, but it's not something we immediately have planned.

Ava Enithesi said :
11. Will there be more backstory on World Event NPCs (i.e., Padomenes, Taka'ra, Kamiee, Bree, Gee'Ka, ect.?)


Maybe, when their history becomes relevant to the story we are telling.

Ava Enithesi said :
12. Will there be backstory on the faction representatives in The Heart?


See above. :P

17-Jan-2017 19:48:24

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CD_Paladin_C said :
1)So did DoD Guthix kill the other gods instead of banishing them? (Wish I could draw, would draw this epic version of Armadyl petrified with the sword of edicts impaled through him)

3)Any chance of us getting a stone of jas timeline that shows who it passed between?

4)Just wanted to point out that The Light Within cutscene between Zaros and Seren always struck me as a lorefail that they weren't in their simulacrum forms, doubt they'd know what dresses, robes, and runic symbols were on an empty planet in the middle of no where space.


1) No, he drained them of the majority of their divinity, then kicked them out, so they wouldn't cause trouble trying to get back in.

3) Maybe...

4) Perhaps that was just the viewer's interpretation based on how they know them to look, or it was an editor making them more decent. I agree, perhaps their true forms make more sense, but it hasn't been established when exactly they decided to wear clothes. A full suit of armour would help Zaros isolate himself even from Seren. I wouldn't see it as a lorefail, in that case. It doesn't NOT fit with each of their characters.

17-Jan-2017 19:50:50

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Big Storms said :
What are the Dragonkin doing now that the Catalyst is destroyed?
- Is their rage subsiding?
- Is their power decreasing?
- Is Kerapac, who for some people holds Ilujanka Hannibus for research purposes on a cure to the Catalyst curse, willing to release him now that the curse has been broken? (Insert Kerapac "
No.
" here =p)


Obviously this is something best explored in future content, rather than explained here. All I will say is that the dragonkin storyline is far... far from over.

Also a HUGE assumption has been made in your question....

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Big Storms said :
Something I have been pondering for a while: the Ilujanka, who have severe issues reproduction wise, live on a planet described as with a night sky devoid of stars. Does this mean their planet could be a remnant of the previous cycle, not being destroyed in the last Great Revision?
I especially wonder this because of the apparent connection Dragonkin share with the Ilujanka according to Kerapac. This would make sense if they share a similar origin. With the Dragonkin having their origin in the previous cycle, it makes sense if the Ilujanka do as well.


What an interesting theory. ;)

Big Storms said :
Continuing my pondering, is the issue the Illujanka are facing actually due to their world losing anima, a fate befallen on those areas which lack the elder gods their presence?


What an interesting theory. ;P

= Raven =

17-Jan-2017 19:51:51

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Quael said :
Apparently, a time traveler who was with Guthix had the power of the World Guardian, Guthix takes that power back and fuses the said time traveler with the others to form the elemental.

1. My question is, how was she given the world guardian power?


Guthix gave the power to her, just as he gave it to you, when it was your time. The power is not yours to give. (And she used it for quite a different purpose.)

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2. after our death, does that mean after a certain quest that out character"dies" WE no longer become world guardian? (like a clean slate)


Well, if you're dead, you no longer have any use for that power, do you? And the Balance Elemental claims to live outside of time and even witnessed your funeral. So they must have had the power when you no longer needed it.

If your head hurts a bit, that's to be expected. The Balance Elemental's a bit of a timey wimey ball of madness.

17-Jan-2017 19:52:59

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Swolllliosis said :
Please answer as much as possible. They are ordered by most important.

2. What's the deal about the desert gods and the animal aspects? Tumeken = hawk, Elidinis = hippo, etc.? Is Tumeken an Aviansie?

3. Mod Osbourne said in a reddit post that there was an elder artefact somewhere in the Kharidian Desert. Is that still true? And is it the one Tumeken used to ascend?

5. Can you tell us anything about the the Kharid-ib at all?

6. Was Ful the only other Elder God other than Jas to create an elder artefact? Or did Wen and Bik also create a few of the twelve artefacts? (The Kiln)

7. Is Mah's ritual marker in Children of Mah considered a brand new Elder Artefact?

8. What does the Elder Horn actually do? Is it some kind of special mouthpiece like the mouthpieces Jas used to communicate with us in Sliske's Endgame? Is it used to communicate with divine energy-based races like seacreatures and Tokhaar?

11. Are vampyres considered undead?


2. Tumeken is not an aviansie.

3. I have no idea what he was referring to at the time.

4. I wouldn't ever expect to see them, so if/when they do show up it will be a surprise.

5. I imagine you'll learn more along with Menaphos. Failing that, by the conclusion of the desert quest series.

6 and 7. I’d imagine the other two created tools also. Mah wouldn’t have, and her marker is not one.

8. At least one use for the Elder Horn is ‘to communicate with/control’, which is the basis for Quin’s ability to bend sea monsters to her will.

11. Vampyres are canonically not undead, they are a species.

Edit: corrected numbering.

17-Jan-2017 19:53:11 - Last edited on 18-Jan-2017 14:10:40 by Mod Rowley

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Quael said :
In lore, are other people able to see the Echo memories? or is that something only the world guardian can witness?


It'd require considerable skill in Divination to divine, assemble and comprehend the strands of Guthix's memories, but it wouldn't require immunity to divine magic to achieve. You're not as special as you think you are, World Guardian.

17-Jan-2017 19:54:52

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Shadoliax said :
11) What are your plans (if any) to integrate the Tower of Life into modern lore?

12) Could divination be used to get lore on dead gods other than Guthix?

13) Is it a canon possibility for GWD bosses to be permanently killed?

17) Where does Menaphos get its food from?

18) How did the Skulls end up in both Draynor and the Wushanko islands? What is the history of the gang?


11. For my money, I’d retcon it, similar to how Osborne feels about Camelot. (Sorry, Tim.) It’s more that we’ve refined the game’s lore as a whole in recent years, and it just doesn’t fit in anymore. Before, it was a standalone curio.

12. It already has been with elder chronicles (Mah and the elders), Bandos chronicles, and even for a dragonkin.

13. With a need to not remove that gameplay, if this ever happened, those generals would need to replaced with a new character that (presumably) looks different, but acts in the exact same way. That’s messy, and it effectively nullifies any weight that death could have. IF the content were being deleted anyway, then it might be worthwhile killing off such characters, but only if a story demands and earns that death.

17. Food stores, locally grown produce and fishing, trade with the Eastern Lands…

18. They began in the Skull region (hence their name) and operate throughout (mainly) the first three regions of the Eastern Lands. There are trade links between Menaphos and the EL, so many ships ripe for taking as prizes. They’re also mercenaries (make money where they can) and were in Draynor initially for a contract there. It’s also good to have a base on operations on the mainland for smuggling goods) – it’s close to Port Sarim, but not as strictly governed.

17-Jan-2017 19:57:00

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