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Marine Doge

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Anyways, any more races? Yea there's-..
Sprites
Dryads
Pixies
Dragonkin
Genies
Goebies
Kethsians
Leprechauns
Naragi
Airut
Dagannoth
Fairy Dragons
Ents
Tok/TzHaar

There are a lot more but those are the intelligent ones with bipedal forms so
It's prob only Kethsians and Leprechauns that evolved from humans in that list, imo
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26-Feb-2018 04:35:58

Penny Drakis

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Do penguins count?

That depends on how canonical you think Penguin Quests are, but then they bleed into dwarf and sea slug canon :S
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26-Feb-2018 05:09:52 - Last edited on 26-Feb-2018 05:10:05 by Penny Drakis

Marine Doge

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^^^ Oof. I'd say their sapience is canon and probably most of their experiments (not the time machine tho), but the actual threat they pose is minimal in-universe.

But in regards to relation to humanity, they obvs aren't related--










Oh my god are there penguin aviansie??
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26-Feb-2018 05:27:01 - Last edited on 26-Feb-2018 05:27:12 by Marine Doge

William Witt
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Marine Doge said :
Anyways, any more races? Yea there's-..
Sprites
Dryads
Pixies
Dragonkin
Genies
Goebies
Kethsians
Leprechauns
Naragi
Airut
Dagannoth
Fairy Dragons
Ents
Tok/TzHaar

There are a lot more but those are the intelligent ones with bipedal forms so
It's prob only Kethsians and Leprechauns that evolved from humans in that list, imo


Pixies are fairies; Rosie in the 2005 event said they're "the friendliest fairies you'll meet", and they were hired out to Diango by the Fairy Godfather.
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26-Feb-2018 07:29:52

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I think its entirely possible that the home planet of humans is not the home planet of apes as a whole. Marimbo says that she came from a jungle, something quite different from the icy world of Teragard. Pre-human hominids may have came through the Schism to Teragard, assuming reverse travel is possible.

Another interesting question related to this one is what races are actually native to Gielinor? I think dagannoth are the strongest candidate, with scavids being second although they could be another form of mutated Yu'biuskian.

26-Feb-2018 11:31:52

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Marine Doge said :
Chaos Lupus said :
Marine Doge said :
Werewolf stuff is weird. I was talking to some mods on Twitter a while back and it seems like they're writing and revising werewolf lore, and it seems like it's gonna be quite a bit different from the novels? We'll have to wait and see :c
Also, we don't really know if gnomes, elves, dwarves, and humans can hybridize with each other, do we? I mean it's probably a safe assumption that they can, but has it actually come up in lore?


Want to lead me to this conversation?

Yea gimme a few to scour my twitter logs - there were no explicit statements, but yea.

EDIT
I can't find it all ;-; but I did find this:
https://gyazo.com/6cfa64461198738086553dd802bf0e53

So it seems like they're potentially changing some things, since the novels do have them set as their own race, and now Raven's dodgy about confirming that it's still accurate /shrug
For the record, the context of the question was just why the horror genre creatures (demon, undead, werewolf, vampyre) shared common weaknesses like blessings and junk, so there aren't really context clues to be had there either


It's never confirmed in the novels whether they were originally human, though. At Runefest a few years back Osborne said they're their own race from their own world. Personally, I'd prefer that they descend from a group of humans who were somehow cursed or corrupted. I had a conversation with Raven about that in the Lore FC once, he seemed open to the possibility.
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26-Feb-2018 12:30:18

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Marine Doge said :
Anyways, I don't think vampyres are related to humans for a variety of reasons that I'm too tired to put into words, but Rowley(?) said it's theoretically possible to use haemalchemy to turn races into things besides vampyres. Vyres just happen to possess the natural ability to do so without haemalchemy (although without it, it's much less likely to succeed). It was somewhere in the River of Blood Q&A. So yea, it's not specifically a human conversion thing.


My point is that we know that it can happen when done intentionally because the Vampyres did it. And we know that it can be done unintentionally since Ivandis did that. So on a plane where that sort of energy or something very similar runs rampant, I wouldn't be surprised for humans to unintentionally turn themselves into them. That being said, their natural birth process (as detailed by Drakan's memories) would indicate either a significant alteration from human (more so than modern vampyrification) or a different origin to humans.

Marine Doge said :
Sprites
Dryads
Pixies
Dragonkin
Genies
Goebies
Kethsians
Leprechauns
Naragi
Airut
Dagannoth
Fairy Dragons
Ents
Tok/TzHaar


Dryads are tree spirits made manifest, and are probably not related to humans because of that.
Sprites are a variant of Fairy, which aren't likely to be related to humans.
Dragonkin are from the previous revision and pre-date humans.
Genies are regrettably fairly unknown.
Goebies probably aren't given their more amphibious nature (though thanks to magic I suppose they might be able to breed).
The Kethsians are iffy. We've only seen one statue of them, and it's not the clearest thing. That being said, they are humanoid and their clothes can fit us quite well, so possibly.
Leprechauns aren't well known either. Given their overly humanoid characteristics, I'd be surprised if they weren't related to humans.

26-Feb-2018 12:31:23

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The Naragi probably aren't related to humans if I had to guess given their tusks and cat-like features. Very distantly related to humans at best.
Airut are likely a big no given how greatly their mouth's structure differs from our own and from most other humanoids we've seen. Little hard to tell beyond that, however, since they cover up so much.
Dagganoth are likely a big no as well. For one, they're reptillian/amphibian (which, much like avian, puts them on a very different path to mammals). For two, their skeletal structure is very different, favoring digitigrade hind legs and an elongated snout. Acknowledging that, it's actually a bit difficult to place them given the apparent influence the queen has on what characteristics manifest in her brood (given the extreme variance in the Kings and sudden appearance of the sentinels).
Fairy Dragons are likely a no. Their origin, like most dragons, lies with Dragonkin experiments on sea creatures and manipulating the products from there (especially since we know fairy dragons and regular dragons are compatible partners). To know more, we'd need to get more lore on their origins.
Ents are sapient mobile trees, putting them in the same boat as Dryads (far more likely a derivative of trees than of humans).
The Tok/Tzhaar originate from the elder kiln and pre-date humans as well. At best, a human once fell or many humans have fallen into the kiln's lava and was 'remembered' by the Tokhaar like all other the other shapes they've remembered. If it weren't for his skeleton nearby, I'd say Perjour would be the most likely human to be acquired by the kiln. With how long the Kiln was lost for and how difficult it was to get there, it could very well be the case that no other humans have been close enough to be added to the Kiln. So it is a big maybe with a heavy leaning towards no and a definite 'could be' if a human ever falls in.

26-Feb-2018 12:51:51

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Hguoh said :

Dryads are tree spirits made manifest, and are probably not related to humans because of that.


I'm not sure. "Spirits" are incredibly vaguely defined in RS. The term's been used to describe both ghosts and creatures of the Spirit Plane, but there's never been any explantion as to what Dryads, Nymphs or other supposed "spirits" are. For all we know they could just be another species, and spirit is just some generic/superstitious description, or they could be Guthixian Ghosts who have attuned themselves to nature like Filiman.

Laton95 said :
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Another interesting question related to this one is what races are actually native to Gielinor? I think dagannoth are the strongest candidate, with scavids being second although they could be another form of mutated Yu'biuskian.


Presumably none. According to Zaros life is the result of an imbalance in the Anima Mundi. Gielinor, being the "perfect" world, had a balanced Anima, so intelligent life couldn't form. Of course, events such as the Forinthry explosion could have imbalanced it somewhat, which would explain things like Living Rock Monsters.
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26-Feb-2018 18:10:09

Cthris
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The only question worth asking, at this point in the discussion, is how the **** did centaurs come to exist? Do I dare think the unthinkable...? Gatekeepers and sphinxes also do not yield nice thoughts.

26-Feb-2018 18:29:57 - Last edited on 26-Feb-2018 18:36:21 by Cthris

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