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Athrenn

Athrenn

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Balustan said :
Athrenn said :
Balustan said :
Athrenn said :
@Noct & Mr. Quarter-horse

Did either of you two come up with a theory to explain the odd shape of the blood altar?

My theory is that maybe the moon clan didn't build all of them. Some could have been created by an unknown party that the moon clan were either unaware of or knew of but held that knowledge in secret (The manual is only a basic primer after all).

You mean the fact it's broken? Any number of things could have happened including the attempts by the Fremmy to destroy the altars.

You misunderstand, the blood altar isn't only broken, it's shaped like a bunch of ash-black heads with glowing red eyes.

I see what you mean. Never noticed that before. Just think it's a coincidence and that it looked like that when it broke. I am 100% convinced the Moonclan and in fact V______ specifically made all the altars except maybe ZMI.

That's an awful strange coincidence...12 other alters were broken by the same Fremennik with the same methods (big hammers) and they all look pretty ordinary. Why would the blood altar break differently? My theory is that V_____ was not the only one with knowledge of how to craft the altars - hence why we find them in strange locations and shapes such as the blood altar.

23-Jun-2014 17:47:28

Cthris
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Athrenn said :
Balustan said :
Athrenn said :
Balustan said :
Athrenn said :
@Noct & Mr. Quarter-horse

Did either of you two come up with a theory to explain the odd shape of the blood altar?

My theory is that maybe the moon clan didn't build all of them. Some could have been created by an unknown party that the moon clan were either unaware of or knew of but held that knowledge in secret (The manual is only a basic primer after all).

You mean the fact it's broken? Any number of things could have happened including the attempts by the Fremmy to destroy the altars.

You misunderstand, the blood altar isn't only broken, it's shaped like a bunch of ash-black heads with glowing red eyes.

I see what you mean. Never noticed that before. Just think it's a coincidence and that it looked like that when it broke. I am 100% convinced the Moonclan and in fact V______ specifically made all the altars except maybe ZMI.

That's an awful strange coincidence...12 other alters were broken by the same Fremennik with the same methods (big hammers) and they all look pretty ordinary. Why would the blood altar break differently? My theory is that V_____ was not the only one with knowledge of how to craft the altars - hence why we find them in strange locations and shapes such as the blood altar.

hmmmm what if its one of Drakens experiment. We know he is both interested in the stone of jas, and finding blood alternatives. The altar is a mixture of both. We even know that the stone of jas was in morytania so Draken likely has his own supply of rune essence.

23-Jun-2014 19:07:14

Balustan

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Athrenn said :
Balustan said :
Athrenn said :
Balustan said :
Athrenn said :
@Noct & Mr. Quarter-horse

Did either of you two come up with a theory to explain the odd shape of the blood altar?

My theory is that maybe the moon clan didn't build all of them. Some could have been created by an unknown party that the moon clan were either unaware of or knew of but held that knowledge in secret (The manual is only a basic primer after all).

You mean the fact it's broken? Any number of things could have happened including the attempts by the Fremmy to destroy the altars.

You misunderstand, the blood altar isn't only broken, it's shaped like a bunch of ash-black heads with glowing red eyes.

I see what you mean. Never noticed that before. Just think it's a coincidence and that it looked like that when it broke. I am 100% convinced the Moonclan and in fact V______ specifically made all the altars except maybe ZMI.

That's an awful strange coincidence...12 other alters were broken by the same Fremennik with the same methods (big hammers) and they all look pretty ordinary. Why would the blood altar break differently? My theory is that V_____ was not the only one with knowledge of how to craft the altars - hence why we find them in strange locations and shapes such as the blood altar.

Given it was probably the last one they got to it's not inconceivable and again that is only one possibility of breakage. I doubt anybody else knew how to create them and nobody else had rune essence. Anybody could have done it. Saradomin himself could have done it for all we know.

^ Drakan does not have essence. He has ore which is very different. Also the Altar seems to have been broken for a long time.
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23-Jun-2014 21:50:21

Athrenn

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@Noct
Good catch, it's odd that we haven't found Morytania:s essence mine isn't it? I don't suppose the daeyalt ore is related?

@Balustan
Correction: Drakan does not have essence that we know of. If he's trying to be super sneaky about his plans though it's doubtful that he'd leave it out in the open. His obsession with the "stone" could be the SoJ, but I doubt the purpose of this is godhood. Perhaps it's the essence he's after, or something related to its use?

23-Jun-2014 22:11:51

Cthris
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Athrenn said :
@Noct
Good catch, it's odd that we haven't found Morytania:s essence mine isn't it? I don't suppose the daeyalt ore is related?

@Balustan
Correction: Drakan does not have essence that we know of. If he's trying to be super sneaky about his plans though it's doubtful that he'd leave it out in the open. His obsession with the "stone" could be the SoJ, but I doubt the purpose of this is godhood. Perhaps it's the essence he's after, or something related to its use?

Perhaps he even made his altar out of daeyalt ore, we know nothing of its properties, so who knows perhaps it can act like rune essence and be formed into altars and runes.

24-Jun-2014 00:46:10

Robo Hobo

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Balustan said :
[#283U6XRSI] said :
Lord Drakan said :
[#283U6XRSI] said :
I always believed that V----- discovered SoJ after the God Wars...



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Nope, impossible. Based on what we know, it was most likely (i.e >90% certain) in the Second Age. (plus Mod Osborne allegedly said this at RuneFest)

As for the altar discussion - may I redirect you to my (elaborate) thread on this topic?
Interesting, this means the feud with the Lunar people and the barbarian crusade dates way back... Still odd how barbarians could travel in Zaros' empire and destroying altars there. Zaros wouldn't like such superstition.



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Humans got to Morytania before Zaros arrived. Nobody said when in the second age this took place. Could also be first age but that seems less likely.

I might be misreading this but are you saying the crusades as well took place back in the 2nd age? (or whenever V----- found the SoJ according to the alleged RF information)

I may be on the fence about V7's finding the Stone of Jas super far back but as for the crusades themselves, that remains without a doubt a 5th age event. Regardless of when V7 found the SoJ. You can only fully appreciate a story when you experience it through the eyes of one of its characters.

24-Jun-2014 10:02:19

Cthris
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Robos right the crusades have to have happened fifth age. We know the magic training area was destroyed around that time, along with the formation of the barbarian village.

there is prob other reasons to but i just woke up so i don't feel like looking for them.

24-Jun-2014 14:20:38

Balustan

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Cthris said :
Robos right the crusades have to have happened fifth age. We know the magic training area was destroyed around that time, along with the formation of the barbarian village.

there is prob other reasons to but i just woke up so i don't feel like looking for them.

Who said there was only ever one crusade?

It is a possibility there was another when the altars were first created.

As I said though that is only one possibility anything could have happened to that altar in the time between it's creation and now.
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24-Jun-2014 17:19:34

Lord Drakan
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The only known Runecrafting Crusades with Gunnar that saw the destruction of Camdozaal and the Mage Training Arena, and the foundation of Gunnarsgrunn, most definitely took place between 42 and 62 of the Fifth Age, without any doubt.

The altars' creations and V------ finding the Stome was before the God Wars with 99% certainty.

As Balu said, there may have been other crusades, but nothing suggests this, so we should ignore that possibility to not complicate things further. Bizarre Boron Fusswell, scryer extraordinaire. OSRS: POH ideas & RS3 minigames & achievement ideas !

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24-Jun-2014 22:01:26

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