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2012

Dethal

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I don't know if people realized this but just to make it clear:
Even with option 3 I'd obviously listen to the opinions of the people. It's not like I'd become some overlord. More like I could act first and ask later. It probably doesn't sound good, but at least we'd get quick decisions that could be corrected if people felt it was a wrong one. I'm pretty cool

19-Mar-2016 03:24:03

Penny Drakis

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As long as there is a major disagreement about what is appropriate chat for Lore FC and what is not, this issue about whether we should have generals, just what counts as a controversial and divisive candidate for generalship, and how to keep power away from potentially bad people is going to be nothing but a shouting match.

Until then, talk will degenerate to how beautiful and cuddly our socks are, and how washing them would ruin their charm, and how ALL OTHER SOCKS SHOULD BURN FOR THEIR IMMORAL BEHAVIOUR. Seriously, that is not how you are supposed to wear a sock! Humility is self-destruction, pride is the destruction of all else. And He said, "

Let there be light.

"

And then there were none .

19-Mar-2016 04:08:12

Hazeel

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Well option 3 looks like it's gonna win, so I figured I'd ask...does this apply to just generals or everything? Are we done with elections or just done with voting in general? Runescape doesn't need a hero...it needs a villain. An all encompassing force of evil that will remain ever-threatening and use chaos to make the peoples of Gielinor tolerate each other, grow strong together, and fight side by side against this evil. I am that villain.

19-Mar-2016 04:16:46

Chaos Lupus

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Hazeel said :
Well option 3 looks like it's gonna win, so I figured I'd ask...does this apply to just generals or everything? Are we done with elections or just done with voting in general?

If option 3 wins, Dethal has final say with everything.

The strength of the pack is the wolf and the strength of the wolf is the pack.

19-Mar-2016 04:21:23

Dec

2023

Unicornz pwn

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None of these options will lead to lasting stability, all you have to do to see that is read a few select posts.

Most of these solutions are born out of thinly (or not so thinly) veiled prejudices, and if people think a new system will allow them to gain some previously nonexistent footing in the FC, they are sadly mistaken.

Option 2 is right out the worst possible option, as it led to the most amount of drama in the past, and I have no reason to think that will magically change, especially now that you have some users who were previously not active in the FC returning to take advantage of the apparent crisis.

The choice between Option 1 and Option 3 is dependent on personal responsibility, and trust in the judgement of Dethal, both of which I hold little faith in. I suppose Option 1 would be more tolerable personally, but I think it could be modified slightly if it passes (which it won't) to resemble Hazeel's Generalship for all plan.

Unfortunately, I've come to see that voting for the lesser of two evils never works in the end, and will simply lead to a never ending cycle of supposed reforms spurred by a never ending cycle of crises and drama.

Thus...I respectfully abstain from voting. If the FC is to succeed, the only thing that will allow for that is not some arbitrary vote of a so-called 'majority', but for certain people to put aside their prejudices and vitriolic hatred, and come together for the good of the FC, but when has that ever happened?

So...instead of a vote, you get Uni thoughts. What an excellent trade off.

"Ego Te Provoco."

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19-Mar-2016 06:43:50

Penny Drakis

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People think that they will obtain power. People think that their enemies will obtain power. People think a FC can succeed or fail.

These are the type of people who vote and right think pieces instead of washing their damn socks. I reject all of that. I choose to be a drooling idiot who can't voice a coherent opinion. Humility is self-destruction, pride is the destruction of all else. And He said, "

Let there be light.

"

And then there were none .

19-Mar-2016 07:02:24

Mar

2005

Helring

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Penny Drakis said :
People think that they will obtain power. People think that their enemies will obtain power. People think a FC can succeed or fail.

These are the type of people who vote and right think pieces instead of washing their damn socks. I reject all of that. I choose to be a drooling idiot who can't voice a coherent opinion.

As God Empress, I promise to require constant attention to socks in the fc. Vote for me.

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19-Mar-2016 07:09:20

Infinity Tao

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Might well make myself unpopular here then! I think I'm gonna settle for Option 2.

Option 1 isn't any good for unwanted guests/trolls and we are powerless until a general or Dethal does something.

Option 3 is good on paper but truthfully, I don't want to see Dethal being responsible for -everything- that occurs in FC. There's only so much one person can do at a time.

So hence me picking Option 2. I've poured plenty of oil on myself and I'm waiting for you guys to start the fire...

Either way, I don't really mind which direction FC goes in, as long as it's a good direction.

19-Mar-2016 17:20:36

Jan

2008

Im Rubic

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Amascut said :
I'm tired of the backdoor backstabbing, the whining, the bribing, the arguments, the playing politics, and the awful behavior every time we try to decide who is vaguely not horrid enough to let them have the ability to kick. Are we not above that?

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Amascut said :
The reason I don't lean towards Option 3 is simply that I enter the FC one day to see the specific person who started the grubbiness last election cycle, Uni...

Amascut said :
...person who started the grubbiness last election cycle, Uni...

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I guess we aren't above it after all.

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19-Mar-2016 17:30:57

Jan

2008

Im Rubic

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Infinity Tao said :
Option 3 is good on paper but truthfully, I don't want to see Dethal being responsible for -everything- that occurs in FC. There's only so much one person can do at a time.

A valid argument, but you could also state a community friend's chat, (in a game), shouldn't encounter much more than players who complain about something in particular. In which case you can simply decide whether they are allowed in or banned. If there are complainers who do the same, it's the same decision.

Eventually the number of players may decrease but the chat will become friendlier, and the drama would exist elsewhere.

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19-Mar-2016 17:37:10

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