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Oct

2005

Wahisietel

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Cthris said :

Wahisietel said :

I really don't get what's up with this huge double standard you guys have towards Saradomin? You go around bashing him for stuff that pretty much every other god did, or at least something comparable (or even worse in many cases).

Okay hold up. I don't think you know what your talking about. I encourage you to go through my profile. Look for this so called double standard. I suspect you will find that I "bash" all the gods.

Regardless, if I do have double standards, it is irrelevant to the current assignment of deducing whether or not Saradomin committed genocide, so why bring it up?

I wasn't referring to you, just to the general sentiment certain people seem to have

. You never were our brightest star, Khazard. 'Vermin slaughtered like lambs'? What does that even mean?

09-Jun-2016 23:40:00

Hguoh

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Wahisietel said :
I really don't get what's up with this huge double standard you guys have towards Saradomin? You go around bashing him for stuff that pretty much every other god did, or at least something comparable (or even worse in many cases).

I'm with Kastor on this sone. My aims are to help deduce whether or not Saradomin was or was not a behind at least some aspect of the Zarosian Genocide (which I do believe he was).

And it should go without saying that genocide is wrong, but just because I'm pointing out one example of something when that is the topic of conversation and not others does not mean I suddenly consider those actions less reprehensible than the topic at hand.

If you want to start a discussion about some of these other instances of gods doing reprehensible things then that's fine, and I'll likely join you in pointing out some of what they've done. As it stands, however, to begin discussing these topics here would just be derailing this thread.

09-Jun-2016 23:46:19

Hazeel

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Wahisietel said :
I really don't get what's up with this huge double standard you guys have towards Saradomin? You go around bashing him for stuff that pretty much every other god did, or at least something comparable (or even worse in many cases).

I really hate to bring the real world into this but...for the same reason people bash a Republican politician for lowering taxes or supporting abortion while cheering a Democrat for doing the same.

It's not Saradomin's violence that bugs me so much as his hypocrisy. Zaros mainly annoys me because he can't seem to decide what he's advocating for. One moment he says the weak deserve to die, the next he wishes for their good health. He suggests wanting peace...then has this giant ass army and the most aggressive creatures on his side.

Bandos could have done all the violent acts Saradomin is credited for and I wouldn't care that much. He advocates it. I'm more bothered that he hides from battle.

I have issues with Seren's philosophy of peace, but I can respect Seren herself for at least standing by it (so far). I have issues with Saradomin's philosophy of peace, but my issues with Saradomin stem from the fact that can't actually be peaceful. Runescape doesn't need a hero...it needs a villain. An all encompassing force of evil that will remain ever-threatening and use chaos to make the peoples of Gielinor tolerate each other, grow strong together, and fight side by side against this evil. I am that villain.

10-Jun-2016 00:11:42

Dec

2020

Sepulchre

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Zulkir said :
Tempra said :
Zulkir said :
Tempra said :
Sepulchre said :
Further proof that Saradomin is evil. He coerced Armadyl into committing genocide.

#StopSaradomin copy/pasting paladins rhetoric doesn't make you sound any smarter.

She doesn't sound any smarter? Little man If you hear a voice when you read her posts then I think you have a slight illness of the mental variety. im mentally ill for calling someone out on their trolling? and you got mental illness from that one comment? im not the one who needs to question their sanity "little man"

Your outrage in the fc suggests otherwise

Now now, let's not devolve this into a hatefest.
For any who aren't really aware by now, I don't actually hate Saradomin.. I just do it to annoy the Saradominists. The lesson here is not to take things so seriously, and if you do.. have fun with it, like I do.

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10-Jun-2016 05:10:33

Aug

2023

William Witt

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I've been meaning to get back to this. I happened to remember something (which I believe was actually part of my now-dead thread) - A Mod Jack quote, where he spoke of Armadyl considering it to be liberating the empire. I don't see how he could perceive killing people as liberating them.

Also, Kastor, the internet claims about the Milgram experiment: "If the teacher asked whether the learner might suffer permanent physical harm, the experimenter replied, "Although the shocks may be painful, there is no permanent tissue damage, so please go on."

The Asgarnian ale must flow.

18-Jun-2016 00:55:50 - Last edited on 18-Jun-2016 00:56:43 by William Witt

Dec

2023

Cthris

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William Witt said :
I've been meaning to get back to this. I happened to remember something (which I believe was actually part of my now-dead thread) - A Mod Jack quote, where he spoke of Armadyl considering it to be liberating the empire. I don't see how he could perceive killing people as liberating them.

Also, Kastor, the internet claims about the Milgram experiment: "If the teacher asked whether the learner might suffer permanent physical harm, the experimenter replied, "Although the shocks may be painful, there is no permanent tissue damage, so please go on."

Yeah, you're correct.

I'll add more in a second

18-Jun-2016 01:26:19 - Last edited on 18-Jun-2016 01:31:24 by Cthris

Aug

2023

William Witt

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Cthris said :
For the record, you really shouldn't just use the "internet" as a source, like the wiki it is inaccurate and often lacks context. I can provide a link if you would like the original paper.

Quite true, and thank you very much for pointing that out. As you've quoted the relevant portion, though, I'm not sure I need a link any longer.

The Asgarnian ale must flow.

18-Jun-2016 01:30:15 - Last edited on 18-Jun-2016 01:31:04 by William Witt

Dec

2023

Cthris

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William Witt said :
Cthris said :
For the record, you really shouldn't just use the "internet" as a source, like the wiki it is inaccurate and often lacks context. I can provide a link if you would like the original paper.

Quite true, and thank you very much for pointing that out. As you've quoted the relevant portion, though, I'm not sure I need a link any longer.

Actually I was wrong. He added some sub text.

He added a special prod if people asked if they were causing serious harm.

I don't think this was an issue however. He even explains that prod was interjected to provide credibility to the experiment. I don't think it weakened the experiment though, but if you still do, I'd be willing to hear out what makes you think it weakened it.

It just goes to show that as long as people think they can trust whoever tell them what to do, and are reassured, despite things obviously appearing very bad, it's likely they will carry out what they are asked to do.

18-Jun-2016 01:31:54 - Last edited on 18-Jun-2016 01:51:47 by Cthris

Weird Tomboy

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Oh.

Saradomin is such a colossally violent and ignorant hypocrite I always thought he was a direct parody of the {Redacted due to predicted moderation by religious proxy}.

I'm actually surprised the developers are so unconscious about it, surely they were joking, or aren't in charge of the storyboard. Tired of the promotions, dead, temporary and grind content? Support the Deadscape thread.
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16-Jul-2016 08:43:26 - Last edited on 16-Jul-2016 08:45:49 by Weird Tomboy

Maiden China

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Sepulchre said :
The lesson here is not to take things so seriously, and if you do.. have fun with it, like I do perhaps you haven't met lethal. something about old gods and new tricks

Weird Tomboy said :
Saradomin is such a colossally violent and ignorant hypocrite I always thought he was a direct parody of the {Redacted}
I'm actually surprised the developers are so unconscious about it, surely they were joking, or aren't in charge of the storyboard. They're in control of what they write, but they have far less control over how people will perceive* it. Someone, somewhere thought jarjar was a good idea

They wrote him originally as far too perfect, and then they tried to balance that out with some bad, portraying him as more of a tragic hero trying to redeem himself and atone for his sins by protecting others, but they went way overboard on the evil bits

but it's okay, most of the nonlore people still love him

*i before e except after c Carn

16-Jul-2016 16:23:46

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