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Colifin
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As promised, here are some quotes from Padomenes. Make of it what you will.

- Player: Ask about Saradomin.
- Padomenes: Saradomin is the one true god. All other so-called gods are nothing more than pretenders to Saradomin's rule. Only Saradomin is born to be a god. The power of the others is a result of greed and envy - stolen power. But Saradomin is the lord of light, the bringer of justice. He is stern, but merciful, and acts to protect us all. And so, when this fight is over and peace returns, our lord will watch over and guide us. There can be no greater calling than to serve Saradomin!

- Player: Ask about Guthix.
- Padomenes: I know little of Guthix, save that he had great power and prevented our lord from entering this world. It saddens me that he had to die. But his lack of action caused the death of innocents. If he had allowed Saradomin to return here, we could have protected people from the meddling followers of false gods. But Guthix did not care. And so while we mourn his passing, we must now turn to Saradomin for help.

- Player: Ask about Zamorak.
- Padomenes: Zamorak is but a pretender - a thief who stole power not rightfully his. And he calls himself a god? And what does he give in return for loyalty? I have seen the Wilderness: that is his legacy. Once a fertile land, it is now a wasteland, all due to Zamorak's greed. He cannot be allowed to continue! Those who take up his false banner against Saradomin must be destroyed. We will stand no heretics! Only when the chaos that Zamorak brings is gone can we rebuild - with Saradomin's protection - a peaceful and bountiful world.
What the world needs is more geniuses with humility; there are so few of us left.

24-Mar-2014 06:37:05 - Last edited on 24-Mar-2014 06:37:31 by Colifin

Colifin
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- Player: Why do you follow Saradomin?
- Padomenes: Simply answered: Saradomin is the one true god. Saradomin brings us truth, light, justice and life. He is our protector and our guide. Indeed, when I took holy orders, it was so that I could follow his example. Saradomin brought our people safety and hope, and as his priest I could do the same. With our lord, we can all live in harmony, free from the chaos of false gods. Of course, some follow these so-called gods; pretenders, all. These misguided people must be shown the truth of Saradomin's glory. This is my mission. But those who refuse to see the truth and stand in our was as Zamorak does now. They leave us no choice: they must be destroyed!

- Player: What do you know of Zilyana?
- Padomenes: Zilyana! She is something of a legend among our people! Thousand of years ago, towards the end of the first war, she came to Gielinor as one of Saradomin's finest. But not long after, the war ended and this world was denied the protection of our lord - and Zilyana was stranded here. I never thought it possible that she was still alive. Her strength and speed are unsurpassed, and time has not blunted her skill. It is truly a blessing that she is back.

I shall refrain from making any commentary aside from the parts that I have bolded.
What the world needs is more geniuses with humility; there are so few of us left.

24-Mar-2014 06:41:14 - Last edited on 24-Mar-2014 06:42:37 by Colifin

Cybernet377
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Colifin said :
As promised, here are some quotes from Padomenes. Make of it what you will.

Man, it's always slightly uncomfortable how absolutely indoctrinated Padomenes is, and he's the less insane commander of Saradomin's forces.

I still don't get how the Saradominists didn't realize that more innocents would be killed in the process of them fighting to protect the innocents than otherwise. Saradominists outnumber other god followers in Gielinor at least 5-1, so it would have been simple to martial forces to work towards saradomin's goals, especially since Sir VeyLantz receives orders from Saradomin himself.

Killing Guthix made no sense as a Saradominist plan, and bringing the gods back only made things harder for them.

Must have had all 100 Sidereals planning that.

24-Mar-2014 06:48:00 - Last edited on 24-Mar-2014 06:49:53 by Cybernet377

William Witt
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I'm not sure whether you saw my last post in response to you on the other thread, but if not, here it is:

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whereas I read it and think "well, that doesn't mean anything, if Saradomin comes across someone who's not Saradominist he's still going to blast them, since (unless they're a part of his giant ubermasterplan) they're still a "threat" to his church."

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Second quote: Not sure what you were trying to prove there,

William Witt said :
Mod Stu:
I think
Saradomin is more reasonable and tolerant than either faction has been led to believe
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The Asgarnian ale must flow.

24-Mar-2014 08:15:28 - Last edited on 24-Mar-2014 08:16:11 by William Witt

Elder Minsc
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Interesting read, I think that in the sixth age, Saradomin will learn how the reasoning of Elder Gods as we receive more world events, his mistakes he made as a god and how as one that believes in good and order learns to improve himself without losing sight of his visions, as the Devas once told Roy Greenhilt that trying to be a lawful good being is impossible for average humans (even someone like Saradomin who obtained powers from a god item rather than being born like Zaros, thus is capable of flaws like his anger towards the Naragi or tearing the wings of an Iceyne in a moment of irrationality) but so long as Saradomin tries, he will become a true god of order.

27-Mar-2014 07:01:26

Raxxess

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William Witt said :
About the wings thing, Mod Moltare (designer for World Event 2) did say on Twitter that Garlandia's story was biased.

I think that is because when Garlandia talks about her wings and how everyone was envious of her wings and I think it might have made a scenario where she thought herself to be superior to the others, which might have lead to her losing her wings out of having to much self obsession because of them.

I also wish there would be less quotes but more putting that into game because a good amount of players just listen to what they hear in game not J-mod quotes so it kind of gives saradomin the wrong image, and if his defense comes from a quote from an outside website its not as effective as getting the point across.
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27-Mar-2014 16:02:57 - Last edited on 27-Mar-2014 16:07:14 by Raxxess

Balustan

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Raxxess said :
William Witt said :
About the wings thing, Mod Moltare (designer for World Event 2) did say on Twitter that Garlandia's story was biased.

I think that is because when Garlandia talks about her wings and how everyone was envious of her wings and I think it might have made a scenario where she thought herself to be superior to the others, which might have lead to her losing her wings out of having to much self obsession because of them.

I also wish there would be less quotes but more putting that into game because a good amount of players just listen to what they hear in game not J-mod quotes so it kind of gives saradomin the wrong image, and if his defense comes from a quote from an outside website its not as effective as getting the point across.

While I think we need to hear Saradomin's side J Mod quotes cannot be considered accurate. All the bad pieces of lore about Saradomin aren't known to the wider player base due to where it is given out which is kind of unfair. Same with the good side of Zamorak being obscured.
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03-Apr-2014 13:34:01

Raxxess

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Balustan said :
Raxxess said :
William Witt said :
About the wings thing, Mod Moltare (designer for World Event 2) did say on Twitter that Garlandia's story was biased.

I think that is because when Garlandia talks about her wings and how everyone was envious of her wings and I think it might have made a scenario where she thought herself to be superior to the others, which might have lead to her losing her wings out of having to much self obsession because of them.

I also wish there would be less quotes but more putting that into game because a good amount of players just listen to what they hear in game not J-mod quotes so it kind of gives saradomin the wrong image, and if his defense comes from a quote from an outside website its not as effective as getting the point across.

While I think we need to hear Saradomin's side J Mod quotes cannot be considered accurate. All the bad pieces of lore about Saradomin aren't known to the wider player base due to where it is given out which is kind of unfair. Same with the good side of Zamorak being obscured.

Well the Garlandia story came from the 2nd world event if I'm not mistaken. I do think zamorak gets left out in that respect, but there is not exactly one event that is his "evil image" it is just the image given to him so with Zamorak it is more of a point of philosophy and how you see morality is how you decipher if Zamorak is evil/good. With Saradomin he is just given these immoral acts of aggression that are like a court case really two sides and the player is the judge/jury but the problem is there is no way the player can come up with an un-bias answer because we only have one side of the story in all these instances.
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03-Apr-2014 15:34:55 - Last edited on 03-Apr-2014 15:38:16 by Raxxess

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