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Solanumtinkr

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She had not heard of any gods other than from rumour before she left for Gielinor. While the wing ripping may have reinforced her belief that New Domina's god was a mortal with more power than an sane being should have. Getting to Gielinor and getting more accurate accounts would have been the point that her belief would have hardened.

The point is not that she is anti-god but where and how that it went from suspicion to all round belief that it was all of the gods.

Some people would say it was very early on in hopes to make her out to be an unreasoning foaming at the mouth nutjob who is basing their opinion on ghosts of rumours only dancing in their imagination.

The flipside of that coin is saying that she came to her reasoning in stages as evidence presented itself. Based on more than hallucinations and spectres. But on observational facts.

One can be dismissed as the ravings of a lunatic, as many in positions of influence, be it the arena of politics or court, would try to do to anyone who opposes their goal. Many a slander campaign memo has become inconveniently lost, only to end up in the hands of the press.

The other has to be taken seriously, because other people will listen and act on it. The purpose of adventure is to shine light into dark places,
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14-Dec-2013 10:58:28 - Last edited on 14-Dec-2013 11:33:41 by Solanumtinkr

Sigilius

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I must admit, I am impressed: you have amassed quite an exhaustive list of justification and propaganda. There is no need to defend Saradomin's actions, the term implies that they are excusable and that he needs to be protected in some way. If he is truly the paragon that he claims to be, let his victims air their grievances and let the chips fall where they may.

But then again, that won't happen, will it?

14-Dec-2013 12:24:12

Nerevarine x

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Sigilius said :
I must admit, I am impressed: you have amassed quite an exhaustive list of justification and propaganda. There is no need to defend Saradomin's actions, the term implies that they are excusable and that he needs to be protected in some way. If he is truly the paragon that he claims to be, let his victims air their grievances and let the chips fall where they may.

But then again, that won't happen, will it?

If you read the first few sentences of the thread you'd know why my defence of Saradomin is necessary.

14-Dec-2013 12:36:20 - Last edited on 14-Dec-2013 12:38:26 by Nerevarine x

Cybernet377
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Solanumtinkr said :
Some people would say it was very early on in hopes to make her out to be an unreasoning foaming at the mouth nutjob who is basing their opinion on ghosts of rumours only dancing in their imagination.

The flipside of that coin is saying that she came to her reasoning in stages as evidence presented itself. Based on more than hallucinations and spectres. But on observational facts.

One can be dismissed as the ravings of a lunatic, as many in positions of influence, be it the arena of politics or court, would try to do to anyone who opposes their goal. Many a slander campaign memo has become inconveniently lost, only to end up in the hands of the press.

The other has to be taken seriously, because other people will listen and act on it.

The problem is that a minor grammatical inconsistency in her dialogue could indicate either of the two depending on how it's interpreted.

Nerevarine chose to interpret it as her being instinctively prejudiced because that supports his conclusions better.

14-Dec-2013 16:28:25

Lego Miester
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Sigilius said :
I must admit, I am impressed: you have amassed quite an exhaustive list of justification and propaganda. There is no need to defend Saradomin's actions, the term implies that they are excusable and that he needs to be protected in some way. If he is truly the paragon that he claims to be, let his victims air their grievances and let the chips fall where they may.

But then again, that won't happen, will it?

That's really the sixth age in a nutshell. Saradomin isn't objectively good, Saradomin isn't objectively evil, he just is. We get to come to our own conclusions about him, and decide whether he's a positive or negative influence on the world as world guardian. Headcanon Haven, where everything is made up and the points don't matter.
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14-Dec-2013 21:32:51

Cybernet377
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Lego Miester said :
Sigilius said :
I must admit, I am impressed: you have amassed quite an exhaustive list of justification and propaganda. There is no need to defend Saradomin's actions, the term implies that they are excusable and that he needs to be protected in some way. If he is truly the paragon that he claims to be, let his victims air their grievances and let the chips fall where they may.

But then again, that won't happen, will it?

That's really the sixth age in a nutshell. Saradomin isn't objectively good, Saradomin isn't objectively evil, he just is. We get to come to our own conclusions about him, and decide whether he's a positive or negative influence on the world as world guardian.

B-b-b-b-b-but, what about my opinion?

If we're supposed to individually come to our own decisions about things, how can I force my personal opinion on others by distorting the facts, conveniently omitting information that disagrees with my headcanon, and ignoring arguments that I don't want to answer by accusing the person making the argument of having bad grammar?

I mean, if what you say is true, then the lore forum should actually be discussing lore rather than working towards the noble pursuit of squabbling like children with each other over whose dad god could totally beat up everyone else's dad god.

16-Dec-2013 07:16:27

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