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Hguoh

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AesirWarrior said :
Energy cannot be created or destroyed, except in Runescape it seems, where the power to create thousands of stars seems to come from nothing.

Seems being the keyword. Life generates anima. But how does it do it, and what, if anything, fuels the process?

Perhaps energy is not being created, but merely converted by the worlds and life on them from a source within the void (like how the sun provides much of the energy used by life to our world)?

Perhaps the energy is drawn from the waste energy of other universes (i.e. one universe's useless heat energy is another's build up to a big bang)?

Perhaps they aren't creating enough energy to sustain themselves and that's why there are so few of them?

Who knows, who cares? The universe happened in RS, which is what truly matters.

25-Sep-2017 23:03:01 - Last edited on 25-Sep-2017 23:08:01 by Hguoh

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Ohh man i was just throwing around some ideas about planet designs trying to figure out the new information we have now when i suddenly realised something possibly huge

I was thinking about what planets would exist in the lower "pure" regions of the elemental paths in the universe map, we have muspel the planet of fire, was thinking maybe the dwarven homeworld for the planet of earth but then i was thinking about a planet for pure water element. What creatures do we know would exist in a planet of water, fish or more significantly squids which brought me to think about a possible origin place for xau tak. We know he's based on lovecraftian work and from vague descriptions of him he seems squid like in nature. But it then got me thinking he's not just water based, he's dark and ancient, he seems more foul than any other god we know. Then it hit me:

In recent lore additions we know of the ancient planet leng, which the lore stream places right in the lower planes as representing the ancient ice element. Leng is also a location from lovecraft novels! Ingame its described as a planet of ice so i looked at planets and moons irl which brought me to the moon encaladus. This is a moon that has a very thick crust of ice but a global ocean underneath it (similar to our planets molten lava outer core), a dark ocean that never sees sunlight

Anyone else see it yet? I think its highly likely that this is the model and structure of the ancient ice planet leng and that xau tak is from the global ocean of its outer core! The names, the inspiration used for them, the nature of both xau tak and leng compared to lovecraft works, it all fits =P

25-Sep-2017 23:09:24

Marine Doge

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Hguoh said :
Marine Doge said :
Oh, and what of ice magic? Would we be able to have non-dark, non-ancient "frost" magic that isn't aligned with the last revision or the lower planes?

Water + Death?
Water + Air + Death?
I feel like the death rune's energy would throw it right into dark-element ice territory, seeing as death energy is evidently a form of dark energy (Dark Lord and such), but I can't think of any other combo that doesn't involve death. Death rune really does just make sense XD
Maybe non-dark ice would just be a plain water rune, though? Sort of like the Avatar route, where water magic/waterbending can straight up freeze water. Advanced form of water magic in the RS universe, maybe? Mods pls notice me

25-Sep-2017 23:22:30

Hguoh

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Marine Doge said :
Hguoh said :
Marine Doge said :
Oh, and what of ice magic? Would we be able to have non-dark, non-ancient "frost" magic that isn't aligned with the last revision or the lower planes?

Water + Death?
Water + Air + Death?
I feel like the death rune's energy would throw it right into dark-element ice territory, seeing as death energy is evidently a form of dark energy (Dark Lord and such), but I can't think of any other combo that doesn't involve death. Death rune really does just make sense XD
Maybe non-dark ice would just be a plain water rune, though? Sort of like the Avatar route, where water magic/waterbending can straight up freeze water. Advanced form of water magic in the RS universe, maybe?

Death might be dark, but it's not part of the ancient elements, though it is utilized in channeling them sometimes. Beyond that, it is used in other spells like Slayer Dart, Enchanting Onyx bolts, and the Vengeances.

So while I could see it still being distasteful, I'd imagine it would be more acceptable amongst those of the Wizards' Tower.

I believe the Death rune makes sense due to it's relationship to entropy and the loss of energy (in opposition to the fire rune's apparent association with the supply of energy (though that should really also be attributed to air, blood, and soul given their use in combat spells as, presumably, propellants)).

25-Sep-2017 23:41:44

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I've been thinking about it, if every planet is represented by a rune then i personally think the death rune is freneskae. I mean think about it, it was born from the death of the previous universe and in their image its not shown to be made from combinations of runes. Plus its the exact opposite side of gilenor which was specifically designed to create the most life energy and so could even be represented by the mythical life rune. Death is dark much like the rest of the ancient elements, plus it ties into the story of seren. She still held a strong emotional connection to her home, if its the planet of death it could tie into her later obsession with death

25-Sep-2017 23:48:35

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Gamez X said :
I've been thinking about it, if every planet is represented by a rune then i personally think the death rune is freneskae. I mean think about it, it was born from the death of the previous universe and in their image its not shown to be made from combinations of runes. Plus its the exact opposite side of gilenor which was specifically designed to create the most life energy and so could even be represented by the mythical life rune. Death is dark much like the rest of the ancient elements, plus it ties into the story of seren. She still held a strong emotional connection to her home, if its the planet of death it could tie into her later obsession with death Except Freneskae was the previous cycle's Gielinor. It's the way it is now because the Elder Gods drank up it's Anima.

25-Sep-2017 23:53:59

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Gamez X said :
Yes its how it is now because the previous universe kinda blew up or something but maybe thats what turns it into a death element

There's a difference between being created primarily of the aspect of death and having a plane with most of it's parts dead.

This is why Yu'biusk is considered the elemental world of mud despite the time it had spent being covered in a lush greenery.

26-Sep-2017 05:54:57

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Let's say all these planes made by the Elders are more or less on a flat plane and linked together as laid out on the diagram. This would leave an intriguing possibility as the periphery would a bubble making the abyssal plane by far the largest plane of them all as there would be space at the top and bottom of that multiplanar disc. One side of this multiplaner pancake is probably the garbage dump of the Elders, maybe both. But by adding tiers above and below you can have combination planes that have "self organised" out of the junk and energy from the main disc.

And the Abyss itself could more than just a few conduits between the plane but have worlds of its own. Sounds like we might need an extra arrow and label: Here there be monsters!

This would also give Shattered Worlds an actual location in one of those.. lobes(?). The purpose of adventure is to shine light into dark places,
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26-Sep-2017 10:55:59 - Last edited on 26-Sep-2017 11:02:28 by Solanumtinkr

Hguoh

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Just realized something.

We have dark worlds for Blood (Vampyrium), Ice (Leng), and Smoke (Infernus). Yet we know that at least one dark world for Shadow should also exist due to the element's continued presence in this cycle.

I see 2 distinct possibilities for such a world:

1. The shadow realm (the name explains itself, though I'd find it odd if a previous revision's planehallens to be coterminous with all/most of those in this revision).
2. The Dragonkin homeworld. We know it survived the last cycle thanks to Forcae's journal, and we have good reason to suspect that it was one of the planes close to Freneskae during the last cycle (Mah's corruption taking place last cycle and its worsening kept her from preventing sapient life on some of the later planes) like the other dark worlds are said to have been.

26-Sep-2017 12:39:15 - Last edited on 26-Sep-2017 13:29:02 by Hguoh

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