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Darc Oejder

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Hazeel, Azzanadra is still 100 times more honorable than any Zamorakian mahjarrat. Bilrach is a slaver, breeder of sentient races and necromancer. All for his amusment and Zamorak's forces.

Zemoregal murders countless innocent people and turns them into his undead servants. His is the definition of evil. He is loyal to no one but himself.

Enakhra collects non-zamorakians as tropys.

Khazard is vicious and cruel to his own followers and he forces innocent humans to fight in his fight arena.

Azzanadra is a racist to Moia which disappointes me but he still better than most mahjarrat.

It would be funny if you tried defend these mahjarrat since they insult and hate us players.
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29-Jan-2017 09:40:11

Swolllliosis

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Is this even a surprise? Many of the Mahjarrat don't like Moia either.

Dialogue from Nadir
Zemouregal:
Ah so it's the half-breed again.
Lucien, you must share your methods with me; you know of my enchant for studying the ethology of mongrels like these.
Lucien: Trust me, Zemouregal; it is not worth the disappointment. Extended lifespan or not,
she is weak. Useless.



Dishonor Among Thieves

Khazard at the Uzer
Khazard:
That blasted half-breed!
Can't a Mahjarrat do anything in privacy any more?

Sliske confrontation
Zemouregal:
Useless half-breed!
Lucien was right about you. You are weak!

Half-breed is probably an equivalent word to the N word to Moia.
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29-Jan-2017 10:32:04

Hazeel

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Darc Oejder said :
Hazeel, Azzanadra is still 100 times more honorable than any Zamorakian mahjarrat. Bilrach is a slaver


BWAHAHA! XD Get off your high horse, they're all slavers to some extent. Although, at least with Bilrach they joined voluntarily.

Darc Oejder said :
Zemoregal murders countless innocent people


You mean like every other Mahjarrat? =P

Darc Oejder said :
Khazard is vicious and cruel to his own followers and he forces innocent humans to fight in his fight arena.


Boo hoo. The local form of entertainment in the empire was watching hobos being forced to stab each other.

Darc Oejder said :
Azzanadra is a racist to Moia which disappointes me but he still better than most mahjarrat.

It would be funny if you tried defend these mahjarrat since they insult and hate us players.


Defend them for what? I don't care about any of this. Azzanadra is guilty of nearly everything you pointed out, but that's not why I think so little of him. It's his idiocy, narrow mindedness, and inability to think for himself that makes my gorge rise.
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29-Jan-2017 17:40:32

Solanumtinkr

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As long as Azzy and Nex are loyal, they will never get into it. I'd love to see Azzy's face if he finds out Nex is part Mahjarrat. I'm sure his following comments would cause a lot of fun,

(Read that as extreme violence :P )
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29-Jan-2017 17:51:18

Darc Oejder

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They didn't become his slaves voluntarily. They wanted to dig up the rift but he exploited the hell out of them. He let them sleep and eat twice a week. And when the giants stopped being useful he killed them and fed them to his slaves to amuse himself.

The empire was a shitty place for humans so I don't understand your point about Khazard's sadism. Are you saying that because the empire was built on the misery of humans it is ok for Khazard to be a douche? Well at least the empire brought advancement with it Khazard's region is very primitive.

When has Azzanadra done anything cruel? No records of him using recromancy or toying with humans or enslaving people or collecting them as tropys. He burns armies yes but he is a battlemage. He is perhaps narrow minded in his loyality to Zaros but he didn't want to kill Guthix and he doesn't misuse his power and I see that as a sign of strength.
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29-Jan-2017 18:08:26

Cthris
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Darc Oejder said :

When has Azzanadra done anything cruel? No records of him using recromancy or toying with humans or enslaving people or collecting them as tropys. He burns armies yes but he is a battlemage. He is perhaps narrow minded in his loyality to Zaros but he didn't want to kill Guthix and he doesn't misuse his power and I see that as a sign of strength.

Dr Nabanik: Though, I did have a visitor after you left - some fool who thought to come and gloat at my predicament. The look on his face made it all worthwhile, while it lasted. While his face lasted, that is. (Temple of Sennistien)

Seems to me like a pretty cruel method to kill someone.

29-Jan-2017 18:13:46 - Last edited on 29-Jan-2017 18:14:10 by Cthris

Hazeel

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Darc Oejder said :
When has Azzanadra done anything cruel?


Burning off someone's face for something so small and insignificant seems pretty cruel to me. As does demanding to kill someone for their heritage. =P

Darc Oejder said :
No records of him using recromancy or toying with humans or enslaving people or collecting them as tropys.


Honestly, I wouldn't consider necromancy in itself cruel at all unless you're using the Wand of Ressurection or the methods used to create Arrav/The Barrows brothers. Assuming you're not doing that, you're just playing with corpses and nothing else.

But you misunderstand me. I'm not claiming that Azzanadra pales in comparison to the Zamorakians in terms of morale character....I just like poking at people who try to claim the moral high ground when they have nothing to stand on. XD It's fun pointing out that the Saradominist's high ground consists of a mountain of corpses, likewise when Zarosians try to flock to a bigoted, short tempered, violent tyrant like Azzanadra to act as their bastion of good will.
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29-Jan-2017 18:26:48 - Last edited on 29-Jan-2017 18:27:30 by Hazeel

Darc Oejder

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Just to make it clear I am not Zarosian so I don't see Azzy as the epitome of benevolence but I don't think he is a bad guy either. Misguided yes, and he is a racist but not a villian in the same sense as Zemoregal is. I completly forgot about the guy who got his face melted off though why would someone laugh at an archaeologist digging in hole is beyond me.

As for necromancy you would hate it if it happend to someone you care about. Those corpses belonged to people with families and friends.
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29-Jan-2017 18:40:50 - Last edited on 29-Jan-2017 18:42:46 by Darc Oejder

Maiden China

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azzanadra's talking about when he was imprisoned in the pyramid

an adventurer (a player, but not a real player) came in to laugh at him, not realizing azzanadra had his power back and azzanadra melted his face off

totally understandable, really. Especially so if the guy came in once or many times earlier to do the gloating thing... which seems to be implied. he 'came *to* gloat', he didnt come looking for treasure, he wasnt just looking for monster to kill, his intent is made very clear

plus, anything relating to 'other adventurers' isn't really 100% canon, like sliske's messages to the player during fotg... they're just meant as a 'haha' moment and nothing more

@hazeel, I'm aware of your opinion of azzanadra but you're probably also aware of my opinion of your opinion

what *is* nice though, is that the mahjarrat's reactions to moia give credibility to my nonsense-idea that lucien really does love moia. She was obviously a very disappointing failure and not of any great use to him (shown by him not giving her any important missions) but he still won't just kill her, like he'd do to any other failure of his
AND when zemouregal's like 'give me some of that', Lucien tells him no in the typical mahjarrat way (saying that she's useless and zem wouldnt want her), protecting moia from him without making him an enemy
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29-Jan-2017 19:12:46 - Last edited on 29-Jan-2017 19:17:11 by Maiden China

Cthris
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Maiden China said :
azzanadra's talking about when he was imprisoned in the pyramid

A) an adventurer (a player, but not a real player) came in to laugh at him, not realizing azzanadra had his power back and azzanadra melted his face off

B) totally understandable, really. Especially so if the guy came in once or many times earlier to do the gloating thing... which seems to be implied. he 'came *to* gloat', he didnt come looking for treasure, he wasnt just looking for monster to kill, his intent is made very clear

C) plus, anything relating to 'other adventurers' isn't really 100% canon, like sliske's messages to the player during fotg... they're just meant as a 'haha' moment and nothing more


A) Wasn't necessarily an adventurer. You're reading between the lines. All it says was a visitor came to visit. The identity of said visitor might even be of importance, the knowledge of Azzandra's whereabouts is rare.

B) Pretty sure there are less cruel ways to kill people than removing their face somehow. Doesn't matter what the guy did, it's still a cruel way to kill someone. A non-cruel person would never kill someone in such a way.

C) Again, it was never specified to be an adventurer so it doesn't really matter if you want to think the other adventurer stuff is non-canon.

29-Jan-2017 20:28:40 - Last edited on 29-Jan-2017 20:33:22 by Cthris

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