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Lord Remus

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Padomenes said :
Saradomin's philosophy is the opposite of implementing "Survival of the Fittest", its about protecting all of the weak and where everybody has the right to survive.

All of the weak? When he ran away from Tuska, he left the remaining Naragi to their fate and didn't bother take take them with him. This is a race he practically crippled when they refused to worship him and nothing more. He has expressed regret over his actions but that does not change the fact his treatment of the Naragi was completely inexcusable and when it was time to take responsiblity he left them on a dying world with two other battling Gods.

Also, just because someone claims they feel regret does not mean it is genuine regret. A psyhopath with good social and communication skills is more dangerous the average unrepentant madman as it's much harder to know what their real intention is. This may not apply to Saradomin but it is something you should keep in mind. I'm Godless although I consider myself Independent/Unaligned I "We create ourselves through life. Every victory, every failure and every lesson learned from them... Make us who we are. Once we have lived life to it's end, that is when we realise who we are... or more accurately, who we were."

25-Dec-2016 07:34:26

Lord Bhaal

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Saradomin entering a world and slaughtering the native population is not something I'm surprised at.

Would'nt surprise me much either if he and his followers came ''in peace'' and proceeded to stab them in the back.

Many such cases!
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25-Dec-2016 11:29:59

Zack3

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Lord Remus said :

Also, just because someone claims they feel regret does not mean it is genuine regret. A psyhopath with good social and communication skills is more dangerous the average unrepentant madman as it's much harder to know what their real intention is. This may not apply to Saradomin but it is something you should keep in mind.
Actually I do see Saradomin as a psychopath at this point, no matter how many times he claims to regret his actions I don't believe them anymore, he has done the same mistakes over and over and constantly claims to regret it, how am I supposed to believe that at this point, he has taken part on genocide many times, naragi, new domina natives, Zarosians; and he has abandoned his followers many times, he left teragard followers and never bothered to check them in a millennia, he left his new domina followers during the god wars without any way to protect themselves from the rebels, even during the god wars he left his followers like during the battle at the fortress of Annakarl, he came to rescue Zilyana sure, but left the rest of his followers and the mercy of krill and his army, so far the only instances where we have seen him care about his followers are the ones in which it benefits him in militaristic ways, like the centaurs, he personally admitted he was reviving them to increase his numbers, Zilyana and Owen were strong followers so of course he would save them, Garlandia was a follower of his and just for proposing a peaceful approach she gets mutilated?, so far the only redeeming quality of Sara is that he cares about his daughter, but at this point I see Sara beyond redemption.

25-Dec-2016 14:49:50

Padomenes

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NotFishing said :
Padomenes said :
Howcome his never killed a single non-saradominist for having different beliefs that did not attack him?

At this point you are just denying the facts. The Naragi refused to follow him, and he destroyed them. That is an example right there .

Except that was so long ago, do you have any examples at all in the PRESENT of Saradomin STILL doing it?

26-Dec-2016 07:24:47 - Last edited on 26-Dec-2016 07:24:58 by Padomenes

Solanumtinkr

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Padomenes said :
NotFishing said :
Padomenes said :
Howcome his never killed a single non-saradominist for having different beliefs that did not attack him?

At this point you are just denying the facts. The Naragi refused to follow him, and he destroyed them. That is an example right there .

Except that was so long ago, do you have any examples at all in the PRESENT of Saradomin STILL doing it? Until recently (TWW) Saradominists were being encouraged to pursue Morytanians to destruction. It was said that Saradomin was giving orders to his Elite all along, I'd like to hear his view on it.

I'd hate to hear him quoting about post River of Blood conditions as that would be avoidance. I think he'd have condideried the Morytainins in the same bracket as the New Domina Natives, the only good one is a dead one. What is going on there now would show that he could have been very, very wrong. Good thing Gielinor has a World Guardian blazing new trails, wouldn't you say? The purpose of adventure is to shine light into dark places,
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26-Dec-2016 11:45:07 - Last edited on 26-Dec-2016 11:51:06 by Solanumtinkr

Lord Remus

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Solanumtinkr said :
Good thing Gielinor has a World Guardian blazing new trails, wouldn't you say?

Depends on the kind of World Guardian lol. Not all of us play good characters it would seem. I'm Godless although I consider myself Independent/Unaligned I "We create ourselves through life. Every victory, every failure and every lesson learned from them... Make us who we are. Once we have lived life to it's end, that is when we realise who we are... or more accurately, who we were."

26-Dec-2016 12:51:43

Solanumtinkr

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Lord Remus said :
Solanumtinkr said :
Good thing Gielinor has a World Guardian blazing new trails, wouldn't you say?

Depends on the kind of World Guardian lol. Not all of us play good characters it would seem. True enough but with a set path, like in River of Blood, we still end up at the same destination. The purpose of adventure is to shine light into dark places,
Poke monsters with a sharp stick, Then steal anything that isn't nailed down!
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26-Dec-2016 12:56:32

Lord Bhaal

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Lord Remus said :
Solanumtinkr said :
Good thing Gielinor has a World Guardian blazing new trails, wouldn't you say?

Depends on the kind of World Guardian lol. Not all of us play good characters it would seem.

''Good'' is quite objective.
Some people think Zaros or Saradomin are ''good'' characters, wich is laughable.
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26-Dec-2016 15:49:14

ZAmorakZaros
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Padomenes said :
NotFishing said :
Padomenes said :
Howcome his never killed a single non-saradominist for having different beliefs that did not attack him?

At this point you are just denying the facts. The Naragi refused to follow him, and he destroyed them. That is an example right there .

Except that was so long ago, do you have any examples at all in the PRESENT of Saradomin STILL doing it?
He killed those cabbages.
Solanumtinkr said :
Lord Remus said :
Solanumtinkr said :
Good thing Gielinor has a World Guardian blazing new trails, wouldn't you say?

Depends on the kind of World Guardian lol. Not all of us play good characters it would seem. True enough but with a set path, like in River of Blood, we still end up at the same destination.
Yes. For example my preferred ending would have involved me killing Roald, Nessie, Safalaan, Efaritay, Veliaf and Ellamaria and becoming the king of united morytania and misthalin. Did it happen? Only in my head. NO
I do not ship ZamorakxZaros.
I follow them. And Marimbo, the best t5 god.

26-Dec-2016 15:52:01

ZAmorakZaros
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Padomenes said :
NotFishing said :
Padomenes said :
Howcome his never killed a single non-saradominist for having different beliefs that did not attack him?

At this point you are just denying the facts. The Naragi refused to follow him, and he destroyed them. That is an example right there .

Except that was so long ago, do you have any examples at all in the PRESENT of Saradomin STILL doing it?
He killed those cabbages.
Solanumtinkr said :
Lord Remus said :
Solanumtinkr said :
Good thing Gielinor has a World Guardian blazing new trails, wouldn't you say?

Depends on the kind of World Guardian lol. Not all of us play good characters it would seem. True enough but with a set path, like in River of Blood, we still end up at the same destination.
Yes. For example my preferred ending would have involved me killing Roald, Nessie, Safalaan, Efaritay, Veliaf and Ellamaria and becoming the king of united morytania and misthalin. Did it happen? Only in my head. NO
I do not ship ZamorakxZaros.
I follow them. And Marimbo, the best t5 god.

26-Dec-2016 15:52:01

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