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Deltaslug

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Let it go.
They made a mistake trying to set Tiers, power levels or what not.

Elder Gods are the strongest and truly do defy reality.
Seren, Zaros, and Guthix below them.
Everyone else below them.

There are no absolutes. Everything is a shade of grey.
One god can overcome another.

Yes, tiers do mean they can do more than others.
But this is fiction. The writers make it so gods do anything as the plot demands.
Did the mortal kill the god because of luck? the god wanted to die? outside powers? or just deus ex machina? or because the plot demanded the death of the god?

So give up on the power tiers.
They should just make that non-canon.

28-Aug-2016 22:51:48 - Last edited on 28-Aug-2016 22:52:46 by Deltaslug

Deltaslug

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Better yet, the god tiers are propaganda.
All the gods are the same tier, give or take.
They just let this info out to mess with everyone's heads.

Zamorak beat a high level god? Ha!
Oh that was a close fight between a Tier 3 and Tier 4 god!

Blah blah blah.

The so called gods are having a joke at us as we try to play Yu-gi-oh with made up stats.

28-Aug-2016 22:58:58

Maiden China

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Deltaslug said :
They should just make that non-canon. if it makes you happy, the tiers are actually noncanon(ical)

they're just meant as guidelines... mostly for 'in a completely neutral setting, which god would blast which to oblivion?' Ofcourse, there are no neutral settings and it doesn't include intelligence, physical strength, or skill so you're not always going to see them having much effect


I see tuska's shield as an extra thing (like wielding the soa) and being unrelated to her being a god, so it's not going to affect her tier Carn

29-Aug-2016 02:56:22

Cthris
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As far as I can tell god tiers simply are quantified thresholds for the quantity of divine energy stored within a god, and are arbitrarily assigned to x levels so that they co-aligned with what x amount of energy can do naturally.

Tier 2 = x energy inside Seren = the same amount of energy that can cause someone to be a crystal headed freak.

This doesn't mean something else can't become a crystal headed freak through alternative means, and it doesn't mean S < X (with X being tier 2) cannot beat X in combat, it just means X has more quantified divine energy.

Does that make sense?

29-Aug-2016 03:07:12

Sepulchre
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I have to agree with Kastor here. It even makes sense, canonically.
V was a lower tier god, and as far as we know, he had a very limited exposure to Divine Energy. Zaros and Seren are aspects of Divine Energy created by an Elder God (granted, she was fairly weaker than the other Elders, but an Elder still). It makes sense that they would have a lot of Divine Energy, they are Divine Energy. Guthix was stronger still, but only because he absorbed an unknown amount of energy from Skargaroth, had constant exposure to the Blade, and then constant exposure to the Catalyst. The Catalyst is the tool used to create all the other Elder Artifacts, so it probably has the most Divine Energy by far, meaning his increased exposure to it was probably what increased his power the most.

Likewise, in the Battle of Lumbridge, Zamorak and Saradomin used a great deal of Divine Energy, fighting for 3 months straight (Zaros only knows how long it ACTUALLY was from an in-game perspective). At the end, Saradomin gained more of Guthix's energy and used it to replenish the energy he used, plus add a significant amount more, while Zamorak was blasted hard by Saradomin's increased power. As a result of this, Saradomin increased in tier and Zamorak, having presumably lost all the energy he gained plus the energy he spent in the battle, was knocked down a tier. A
World Guardian
must learn to find
Balance
in themselves.
Only then can they
Control
themselves and forge their own
Fate .

29-Aug-2016 05:06:23 - Last edited on 29-Aug-2016 05:07:20 by Sepulchre

Lord Drakan
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Tiers of godhood are nothing more than a memo for developers to keep in mind roughly what a deity could conceivably be capable of when featuring them in content. They're not canon, they're not a source; will people please get that through their skull already. Despite the original disclaimer provided when we were told of the tiers - at the time an interesting insight in develoment process and not actual game lore but by now simply an annoying phenomenon that keeps popping up - it's still being discussed. Huaargh.

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30-Aug-2016 20:44:04

Hazeel

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Lord Drakan said :
They're not canon

DaT. Runescape doesn't need a hero...it needs a villain. An all encompassing force of evil that will remain ever-threatening and use chaos to make the peoples of Gielinor tolerate each other, grow strong together, and fight side by side against this evil. I am that villain.

30-Aug-2016 20:54:29

Lord Bhaal

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The tiers only describe the powers another has and another does'nt have access to.
But combat-wise it should'nt matter much.

Zamorak, as a mortal ( perhaps tiered demi-god because of being the most powerful mortal ), was able to defeat a tier 2 god.


I doubt he was stronger as a mortal than he is now, and I also doubt having an elder artifact makes you an instant godslayer.

Guthix, for example implied he could stop Sliske from killing him.
Strength through Chaos!
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30-Aug-2016 21:01:45

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