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07-Sep-2016 22:19:40

Hazeel

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[#0MGFV81HT] said :
Hazeel said :
General Rule: If it doesn't add lore it shouldn't be added to MQC. So no. There are already bosses we have to kill for the cape that dont add lore.

This is a mistake. Runescape doesn't need a hero...it needs a villain. An all encompassing force of evil that will remain ever-threatening and use chaos to make the peoples of Gielinor tolerate each other, grow strong together, and fight side by side against this evil. I am that villain.

07-Sep-2016 22:21:29

Lynxlynx
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[#0MGFV81HT] said :
Hazeel said :
General Rule: If it doesn't add lore it shouldn't be added to MQC. So no. There are already bosses we have to kill for the cape that dont add lore.

I won't say that I don't belive you, but can you give an example?
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07-Sep-2016 22:23:22

Hazeel

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Lynxlynx said :
[#0MGFV81HT] said :
Hazeel said :
General Rule: If it doesn't add lore it shouldn't be added to MQC. So no. There are already bosses we have to kill for the cape that dont add lore.

I won't say that I don't belive you, but can you give an example?


Kiln. Makes absolutely no sense, honestly, but there it is.

EDIT: That's the biggest offender, but there is also unnecessary PvM content like RoB and getting the Annihilator title. Runescape doesn't need a hero...it needs a villain. An all encompassing force of evil that will remain ever-threatening and use chaos to make the peoples of Gielinor tolerate each other, grow strong together, and fight side by side against this evil. I am that villain.

07-Sep-2016 22:27:08 - Last edited on 07-Sep-2016 22:34:27 by Hazeel

Lynxlynx
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Hazeel said :
Lynxlynx said :
[#0MGFV81HT] said :
Hazeel said :
General Rule: If it doesn't add lore it shouldn't be added to MQC. So no. There are already bosses we have to kill for the cape that dont add lore.

I won't say that I don't belive you, but can you give an example?


Kiln. Makes absolutely no sense, honestly, but there it is.

Of course. Thanks, forgot that.
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07-Sep-2016 22:32:47

Autumn Elite

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No.

It adds no lore and is a combat weekly D&D aimed at those high levels who wanted a tough fight, not the lore community.

I also think Voya has a point in being concerned that it may lead to the master quest cape being locked behind necessary pinnacle of top end gear which for a update that has no lore is concerning.

You could say people saying no are just doing it to avoid the work but could also say that yes voters are saying yes because they can do it and this restricts others. A fair number of people during the development of the cape wanted to add irrelevant requirements to make it more “prestigious” for themselves even if it made no sense to be on the game.

What I am saying is that the decision should be make on whether it belongs on the game. Because it is after a quest doesn’t mean it is. Even if it is something introduced in a quest that is expanded on doesn’t mean it necessarily should be on the cape - like Corporeal Beast and Livid Farm, which are a repeatable boss fight with a NCP introduced in the quest and a expansion to the rewards of a quest respectively, aren’t on the cape. Hardmode Nomad belongs to the same caterogories as these - it adds no new lore and is for a different community.

It certainly belongs on Trimmed Comp or Comp, being a update to the game and a weekly D&D that should be participated in once for you to say you have done everything in the game, but not the master quest cape.

Ancient Drew said :
This actually could tie in to lore as well. Nomad turned into a wight and buffed up by Sliske?

It is nothing to do with the ending; just repeating the fight without the playing as other characters sections.

07-Sep-2016 23:44:24

Wahisietel
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If you're giving "it doesn't have any relevance to lore" as a reason it shouldn't be on the master quest cape, then you clearly have no ****ing idea what the master quest cape actually is, and your opinion is irrelevant. IT ISN'T A LORE CAPE AND IT NEVER HAS BEEN. It's a QUEST cape, and represents ALL aspects of quests, including boss fights.

The cape ALREADY has a ton of requirements that have absolutely nothing to do with lore, many of them PVM related (such as the FIght Kiln, the Phoenix rematch, ect). We as a community did set the requirements for the cape, and these are the ones we chose. If you didn't contribute to that discussion, that's your problem. Either way, Nomad hard mode fits the criteria in the same way the Dawn rematch post-Death of Chivalry does.

The Nomad Hard Mode requirement is literally EXACTLY THE SAME THING AS DAWN : A repeatable rematch with a boss from the quest, and you get a cosmetic override after beating the rematch the first time. The Fight Kiln is the same thing, it's a harder version of a fight from the quest that you earn a cosmetic override from completing. If these two are on, then Nomad needs to be to.

If you have an issue with the criteria itself, that's fair enough, but that's a separate issue. But this isn't a discussion about what the master quest cape should be, it's a discussion about whether or not Nomad hard mode fits the criteria. As is the cape is currently, it does.

But I doubt any of you care about that, since most of you clearly don't even have the cape. The cape already pretty much requires max combat stats due to Kiln and Ripper demons, anyone who actually HAS the cape will have no issues with Nomad, so I'm not really sure what you're whining about. You never were our brightest star, Khazard. 'Vermin slaughtered like lambs'? What does that even mean?

08-Sep-2016 02:20:20 - Last edited on 08-Sep-2016 02:29:49 by Wahisietel

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I say go for it. Might not be lore related, but if it fits the MQC criteria about unlocking post quest stuff or whatever I really don't see a need to shy away from it.
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08-Sep-2016 03:35:19

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