Zulkir
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William Witt
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CakeRider
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and making his White Knights behind so much crap
Behind what, exactly? The Knights of Falador are easily the most honorable of his followers. They arguably epitomize what Saradomin *should* be to a greater degree than the god himself. (For example, in Wanted!, we see they believe that execution is "not the way of Saradomin"
If we were going off the knights' conduct and image of Saradomin alone, he'd be a saint.
Yeah no, they're atrocious if you look behind the scenes.
I wonder where the rightful King of Falador, Vallance, has been all this time, and I do so wonder why the heir apparent, Analf hasn't taken the throne and had to instead flee to Burthorpe if his father is in such ailing health.
Amik Varze and his entire band of merry men look to of staged a curtained coup.
As you know full well, since I've corrected you on this at least five times thus far, Anlaf did not "flee" to Burthorpe; He was placed there years ago by his father, when Vallance was unmistakably in power. This is canon lore, based on the medieval historical practice of kings putting their sons in charge of principalities (the origin of "prince" eventually becoming the default term for a king's son).
As for Vallance, there's not a single source in the game that implies that he isn't simply old and sick. The worst sources have to say on the matter is that the knights are taking advantage of his state.
William Witt
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Zulkir
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William Witt
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CakeRider
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and making his White Knights behind so much crap
Behind what, exactly? The Knights of Falador are easily the most honorable of his followers. They arguably epitomize what Saradomin *should* be to a greater degree than the god himself. (For example, in Wanted!, we see they believe that execution is "not the way of Saradomin"
If we were going off the knights' conduct and image of Saradomin alone, he'd be a saint.
Yeah no, they're atrocious if you look behind the scenes.
I wonder where the rightful King of Falador, Vallance, has been all this time, and I do so wonder why the heir apparent, Analf hasn't taken the throne and had to instead flee to Burthorpe if his father is in such ailing health.
Amik Varze and his entire band of merry men look to of staged a curtained coup.
As you know full well, since I've corrected you on this at least five times thus far, Anlaf did not "flee" to Burthorpe; He was placed there years ago by his father, when Vallance was unmistakably in power. This is canon lore, based on the medieval historical practice of kings putting their sons in charge of principalities (the origin of "prince" eventually becoming the default term for a king's son).
As for Vallance, there's not a single source in the game that implies that he isn't simply old and sick. The worst sources have to say on the matter is that the knights are taking advantage of his state.
Corrected me 5 times? This is the first, perhaps second time I've ever personally brought this up. So not entirely sure where that number has come from.
Like you yourself have said, taking advantage. You believe that's acceptable? That this should be allowed? It's a curtained coup. They need worming out.
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18-Dec-2016 23:13:42
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18-Dec-2016 23:15:48
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Zulkir
I'm positive this is the third at the minimum that you've brought it up. Typing out the same semi-detailed reply about medieval history tends to stick in the memory.
As for your second line, though, no, I suppose you've got a point there. Going off of the novels, though, they seem to genuinely believe they're doing the right thing; But then, so does Saradomin, doesn't he?
William Witt
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As for Vallance, there's not a single source in the game that implies that he isn't simply old and sick. The worst sources have to say on the matter is that the knights are taking advantage of his state.
This is horribly naive...
Runescape doesn't need a hero...it needs a villain. An all encompassing force of evil that will remain ever-threatening and use chaos to make the peoples of Gielinor tolerate each other, grow strong together, and fight side by side against this evil. I am that villain.
While I wont go out of my way to hinder or kill him, if he threatens me or gets in my way again like in DoC... He will regret it
Pudding is
my
destiny!!!
Tomorrow everyone's gonna get a wake up call when they remember what I've been reminding people of for years;
Around Saradomin, NEVER relax.
"Your god's dead next time he's in a world event. "
-The Lore Community to our Saradominist Friends, Said During World Event 2, Proven During World Event 3.
CD_Paladin_C
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Tomorrow everyone's gonna get a wake up call when they remember what I've been reminding people of for years;
Around Saradomin, NEVER relax.
Same can be said for Zaros aka Purple Shrek whom you seem to have daddy issues for but are sad that he can't be real so you can't have him.
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19-Dec-2016 02:30:22
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Padomenes
You are a member of one of the most advantaged factions in terms of lore, come back when you are not.
I'm sorry my God doesn't kill people for not worshipping her. She's just mentally unstable, extremely naive, and is responsible for the reduction and death of countless people in the races of Mah. She also doesn't handle criticism well, and screams like a maniac when confronted. She also accidentally enslaves races through use of love, and made an entire planet of drug addicts, but ok.
As for Saradomin vs. Armadyl, it shouldn't matter how much of a race is dead, if Armadyl is only risking 10 lives, and Saradomin is risking 10,000, that says a lot about their character.
Neither does Saradomin now which you keep on insisting. All his saying is that its too dangerous for the other gods to keep the stone safely, he knows better than them and they can't be trusted because they are not wise nor experienced enough just as Zaros tried to do once upon a time. Seren and Armadyl, the risk is that somebody could steal it easily. Zamorak, look at forinthy but since when has Saradomin when he had the stone EVER used it to blast an entire continent aside from that one time he used it to heal Zilyana?
Bringing only 10 is not enough sometimes, especially when this is a massive threat that requires a great deal of force. Since when has the approach of "turn the other cheek" when facing danger ever worked? You don't understand, its a kill or be killed scenario. If 10 die there will be thousands more to fill their places to overwhelm them with an army if incapacitated/killed because of the danger. Sliske would be frightened and immediately surrender.
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19-Dec-2016 02:31:05
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Padomenes
this quest will not change anyone's opinion of Saradomin.
those that supported him will continue to do so, and those that don't, wont.
people will read what they want to read and no amount of posting on reddit or here will change that. some of you really try to make obvious your dislike of this character and some of you even try to convince others of your personal bias for said character. its like why even bother anymore
. its how we interpret his character as individuals at the end of the day. Saradomin will still be Saradomin even after the endgame
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this quest will not change anyone's opinion of Saradomin.
those that supported him will continue to do so, and those that don't, wont.
people will read what they want to read and no amount of posting on reddit or here will change that. some of you really try to make obvious your dislike of this character and some of you even try to convince others of your personal bias for said character. its like why even bother anymore
. its how we interpret his character as individuals at the end of the day. Saradomin will still be Saradomin even after the endgame
You traitor! You are suppose to be on Seren's side!
I submissively obey Lady Seren's every whim and relish every waking moment willingly serving her. She is my mistress and I am nothing without her. I am without thought, self-awareness, and being without her. She is my everything.