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Cthris
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Falcoshin said :
I don't know if Balustan and company changed their minds about the location of the "Saradomin abandoned humans" statement, but if they haven't, I can confirm it is NOT in the "A - Z of Divination" podcast. If it's in a podcast, though, it's likely in the one entitled "Deities of Gielinor - Whom To Follow?". I have to go now, so I won't be able to verify it myself, so someone else get on that.


Like Bal said Livestream, if you don't believe me ask kitty, me and him worked together to try and find it, as a while back no one could remember where it was, and it just seemed like a bunch of people making up crap about Saradomin.

23-May-2014 23:29:28

Dennorak
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Falcoshin said :
I don't know if Balustan and company changed their minds about the location of the "Saradomin abandoned humans" statement, but if they haven't, I can confirm it is NOT in the "A - Z of Divination" podcast. If it's in a podcast, though, it's likely in the one entitled "Deities of Gielinor - Whom To Follow?". I have to go now, so I won't be able to verify it myself, so someone else get on that.

Its not in the divination podcast, the divination live-stream.
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23-May-2014 23:30:37

Balustan

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Raxxess said :
Cthris said :

Well you are a bit biased as you have a faction, you said i think it was yesterday that negative make the story better. Now imagen the quotes were not about Saradomin but about something else entirely, like say Zaros killing a bunch of people to lure loarnab, see that is just a jmod quote, not canon, but it certainly made the story better.


And that's where all this flaming is coming from. I don't see that as a J-mod quote here you have the Codex Ultimatus its basically a new piece of lore and it doesn't actually zaros grabbed a bunch of people to sacrifice them, so people started saying "oh they were dead" or "they were dogs/animals (it was something ridiculous)" Mod Jack just clarified they were humans which if you read the script without a Zarosian bias was pretty much what was said. Those are more clarifications.


I agree it definitely said humans but it said nothing about if they survived etc and that they were or at least many were killed it cannot be classified as a clarification as the book itself gives no indication as to that it is entirely new from the J Mod.
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23-May-2014 23:31:03

Raxxess

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Neo Bestia said :
Cthris said :
Raxxess said :
Cthris said :

Before today I thought it was generally accepted that Saradomin was that old...

I am of the opinion that more lore is better, and because this quote doesn't contradict anything said before, i see it as a perfect opportunity for more lore. If enough people deny it, it might not happen which would be sad :( as it is essentialy killing a perfectly good piece of lore. I think this is why it bother Balustan so much, from the little amount I know about him, one thing is clear, he loves lore . By people denying a possible opportunity for more lore, you are attacking him. I think that Instead of thinking of quotes like the one in question as problems, think of them as gifts, and they should be treasured.


That isn't how I see it, because I don't see that as lore I just see it as another stupid thing people will just spam as faction bashing lol. Its like the Garlandia story being told as true sure I accepted which all of you guys did which kind contradictory because there would have been a lot more lore if her story was false. There could have been a big storyline behind but as pointed out we probably aren't getting her story with Saradomin expanded on.


Well you are a bit biased as you have a faction, you said i think it was yesterday that negative make the story better. Now imagen the quotes were not about Saradomin but about something else entirely, like say Zaros killing a bunch of people to lure loarnab, see that is just a jmod quote, not canon, but it certainly made the story better.


Actually I think that was a clarification more so than just an opinion


Exactly that's where all of this is coming from lol. Quotes don't equal Clarifications.
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23-May-2014 23:31:05 - Last edited on 23-May-2014 23:31:28 by Raxxess

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Neo Bestia said :
Cthris said :
Raxxess said :
Cthris said :

Before today I thought it was generally accepted that Saradomin was that old...

I am of the opinion that more lore is better, and because this quote doesn't contradict anything said before, i see it as a perfect opportunity for more lore. If enough people deny it, it might not happen which would be sad :( as it is essentialy killing a perfectly good piece of lore. I think this is why it bother Balustan so much, from the little amount I know about him, one thing is clear, he loves lore . By people denying a possible opportunity for more lore, you are attacking him. I think that Instead of thinking of quotes like the one in question as problems, think of them as gifts, and they should be treasured.


That isn't how I see it, because I don't see that as lore I just see it as another stupid thing people will just spam as faction bashing lol. Its like the Garlandia story being told as true sure I accepted which all of you guys did which kind contradictory because there would have been a lot more lore if her story was false. There could have been a big storyline behind but as pointed out we probably aren't getting her story with Saradomin expanded on.


Well you are a bit biased as you have a faction, you said i think it was yesterday that negative make the story better. Now imagen the quotes were not about Saradomin but about something else entirely, like say Zaros killing a bunch of people to lure loarnab, see that is just a jmod quote, not canon, but it certainly made the story better.


Actually I think that was a clarification more so than just an opinion


Double post
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23-May-2014 23:31:05 - Last edited on 23-May-2014 23:31:41 by Raxxess

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Balustan said :
Raxxess said :
Cthris said :

Well you are a bit biased as you have a faction, you said i think it was yesterday that negative make the story better. Now imagen the quotes were not about Saradomin but about something else entirely, like say Zaros killing a bunch of people to lure loarnab, see that is just a jmod quote, not canon, but it certainly made the story better.


And that's where all this flaming is coming from. I don't see that as a J-mod quote here you have the Codex Ultimatus its basically a new piece of lore and it doesn't actually zaros grabbed a bunch of people to sacrifice them, so people started saying "oh they were dead" or "they were dogs/animals (it was something ridiculous)" Mod Jack just clarified they were humans which if you read the script without a Zarosian bias was pretty much what was said. Those are more clarifications.


I agree it definitely said humans but it said nothing about if they survived etc and that they were or at least many were killed it cannot be classified as a clarification as the book itself gives no indication as to that it is entirely new from the J Mod.


... And you said I have a double standard I'm denying that a quote from a livestream is canon, a quote clarifying a book in game is now not canon because it makes Zaros look bad?
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23-May-2014 23:33:48

Falcoshin

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Cthris said :
Falcoshin said :
I don't know if Balustan and company changed their minds about the location of the "Saradomin abandoned humans" statement, but if they haven't, I can confirm it is NOT in the "A - Z of Divination" podcast. If it's in a podcast, though, it's likely in the one entitled "Deities of Gielinor - Whom To Follow?". I have to go now, so I won't be able to verify it myself, so someone else get on that.


Like Bal said Livestream, if you don't believe me ask kitty, me and him worked together to try and find it, as a while back no one could remember where it was, and it just seemed like a bunch of people making up crap about Saradomin.


Where did you find it, then? Because Google search isn't turning up with anything.

EDIT: Nevermind. I was using the wrong search terms. As it's 4 hours long, though, I don't have near enough time to listen to it until maybe 8 hours from now. As such, can I urge my faction to PLEASE take the effort to listen to it instead of arguing without the information?

23-May-2014 23:34:23 - Last edited on 23-May-2014 23:37:44 by Falcoshin

Balustan

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Raxxess said :
Balustan said :
Raxxess said :
Cthris said :

Well you are a bit biased as you have a faction, you said i think it was yesterday that negative make the story better. Now imagen the quotes were not about Saradomin but about something else entirely, like say Zaros killing a bunch of people to lure loarnab, see that is just a jmod quote, not canon, but it certainly made the story better.


And that's where all this flaming is coming from. I don't see that as a J-mod quote here you have the Codex Ultimatus its basically a new piece of lore and it doesn't actually zaros grabbed a bunch of people to sacrifice them, so people started saying "oh they were dead" or "they were dogs/animals (it was something ridiculous)" Mod Jack just clarified they were humans which if you read the script without a Zarosian bias was pretty much what was said. Those are more clarifications.


I agree it definitely said humans but it said nothing about if they survived etc and that they were or at least many were killed it cannot be classified as a clarification as the book itself gives no indication as to that it is entirely new from the J Mod.


... And you said I have a double standard I'm denying that a quote from a livestream is canon, a quote clarifying a book in game is now not canon because it makes Zaros look bad?


You don't seem to have read the post again. I didn't say any of it was non-canon. Also the quote is partial clarification and partial new information if you want to be technical about clarification and new information which you seem to want to do.
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23-May-2014 23:40:54

Raxxess

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Falcoshin said :
Cthris said :
Falcoshin said :
I don't know if Balustan and company changed their minds about the location of the "Saradomin abandoned humans" statement, but if they haven't, I can confirm it is NOT in the "A - Z of Divination" podcast. If it's in a podcast, though, it's likely in the one entitled "Deities of Gielinor - Whom To Follow?". I have to go now, so I won't be able to verify it myself, so someone else get on that.


Like Bal said Livestream, if you don't believe me ask kitty, me and him worked together to try and find it, as a while back no one could remember where it was, and it just seemed like a bunch of people making up crap about Saradomin.


Where did you find it, then? Because Google search isn't turning up with anything.

EDIT: Nevermind. I was using the wrong search terms. As it's 4 hours long, though, I don't have near enough time to listen to it until maybe 8 hours from now. As such, can I urge my faction to PLEASE take the effort to listen to it instead of arguing without the information?


I just watched it and its not in the 4 hour one. either that or they got their mods mixed up because I just put it on fast-forward but osborne isn't in it.
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23-May-2014 23:43:11 - Last edited on 23-May-2014 23:43:28 by Raxxess

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