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Balustan

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Raxxess said :
Balustan said :


I am not going to say Mod Stu doesn't know the quest as I have said I accept those quotes as canon but I can just as easily on the basis that you disregard quotes you don't agree with say they are non-canon.

I don't want you to go over every individual post I want you to give me an example that you consider canon of a J mod post that doesn't pain a god except Saradomin in a negative light and doesn't show Saradomin in a positive light.

You responded to me first and as such I responded t


I don't use J-mod quotes so the only thing I can point out to you is how I stopped theorizing that Garlandia's story was false when it was pointed out to be true but bias.


Erm but you do use J mod quotes... You have just said you do. This is my problem with you.
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23-May-2014 23:10:32

Raxxess

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Dennorak said :
Raxxess, you are kind of contradicting yourself in this way, you say you take Mod Stu's quotes since he wrote death of chivarly, so he would know, but then shouldn't you accept Osborne's? Since he is in charge of all things lore related?


There was a previous post where someone said something all these lines "unless osborne says its not canon" but we were told that it doesn't work out that way. I mean could you imagine just one person writing the entire lore of RS that would be crazy...
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23-May-2014 23:11:20

Dennorak
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Raxxess said :
Dennorak said :
Raxxess, you are kind of contradicting yourself in this way, you say you take Mod Stu's quotes since he wrote death of chivarly, so he would know, but then shouldn't you accept Osborne's? Since he is in charge of all things lore related?


There was a previous post where someone said something all these lines "unless osborne says its not canon" but we were told that it doesn't work out that way. I mean could you imagine just one person writing the entire lore of RS that would be crazy...

I agree, but, nearly all lore in quests is approved by Osborne (At least I think it is), and he is in charge of that stuff, so shouldn't a quote by him mean just as much as a quote by Stu on DoC?
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23-May-2014 23:12:28

Raxxess

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Balustan said :
Raxxess said :
Balustan said :


I am not going to say Mod Stu doesn't know the quest as I have said I accept those quotes as canon but I can just as easily on the basis that you disregard quotes you don't agree with say they are non-canon.

I don't want you to go over every individual post I want you to give me an example that you consider canon of a J mod post that doesn't pain a god except Saradomin in a negative light and doesn't show Saradomin in a positive light.

You responded to me first and as such I responded t


I don't use J-mod quotes so the only thing I can point out to you is how I stopped theorizing that Garlandia's story was false when it was pointed out to be true but bias.


Erm but you do use J mod quotes... You have just said you do. This is my problem with you.


Because you are saying I claim things when I don't I use them as reference I'm not here telling you that they aren't canon. I said Mod Stu is an exception because its his quest but instead of just accepting that you again are just going to argue as long as possible.
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23-May-2014 23:12:34

Balustan

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Raxxess said :
Dennorak said :
Raxxess, you are kind of contradicting yourself in this way, you say you take Mod Stu's quotes since he wrote death of chivarly, so he would know, but then shouldn't you accept Osborne's? Since he is in charge of all things lore related?


There was a previous post where someone said something all these lines "unless osborne says its not canon" but we were told that it doesn't work out that way. I mean could you imagine just one person writing the entire lore of RS that would be crazy...


Nobody ever said that. I think you are misinterpreting what was actually said there.
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23-May-2014 23:14:26

Balustan

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Raxxess said :
Balustan said :
Raxxess said :
Balustan said :


I am not going to say Mod Stu doesn't know the quest as I have said I accept those quotes as canon but I can just as easily on the basis that you disregard quotes you don't agree with say they are non-canon.

I don't want you to go over every individual post I want you to give me an example that you consider canon of a J mod post that doesn't pain a god except Saradomin in a negative light and doesn't show Saradomin in a positive light.

You responded to me first and as such I responded t


I don't use J-mod quotes so the only thing I can point out to you is how I stopped theorizing that Garlandia's story was false when it was pointed out to be true but bias.


Erm but you do use J mod quotes... You have just said you do. This is my problem with you.


Because you are saying I claim things when I don't I use them as reference I'm not here telling you that they aren't canon. I said Mod Stu is an exception because its his quest but instead of just accepting that you again are just going to argue as long as possible.


So you have a double standard.
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23-May-2014 23:15:17

Raxxess

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Cthris said :

Before today I thought it was generally accepted that Saradomin was that old...

I am of the opinion that more lore is better, and because this quote doesn't contradict anything said before, i see it as a perfect opportunity for more lore. If enough people deny it, it might not happen which would be sad :( as it is essentialy killing a perfectly good piece of lore. I think this is why it bother Balustan so much, from the little amount I know about him, one thing is clear, he loves lore . By people denying a possible opportunity for more lore, you are attacking him. I think that Instead of thinking of quotes like the one in question as problems, think of them as gifts, and they should be treasured.


That isn't how I see it, because I don't see that as lore I just see it as another stupid thing people will just spam as faction bashing lol. Its like the Garlandia story being told as true sure I accepted which all of you guys did which kind contradictory because there would have been a lot more lore if her story was false. There could have been a big storyline behind but as pointed out we probably aren't getting her story with Saradomin expanded on.
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23-May-2014 23:16:20

Neo Bestia

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I haven't denied Saradomin abandoned the humans, I've simply contested all the head canon here, including the exclusion of the several entries of abandon and abandonment on the dictiomary, which are really not as bad as people are cutting it out to be.

Also you should really get a grip Balustan, not everything that seems canon has to be forced to suit your inclusive canon standards.

As regards J-Mod quotes I generally consider them to be in an intermediate state beteen canon and non-canon (maybe the transition to canon). Therefore most of them are valid, albeit subject to change.


Edit: He doesn't seem to have left all humans and we can't say the quantity or reasons for this because it hasn't been established beyond doubt.

23-May-2014 23:17:25 - Last edited on 23-May-2014 23:22:46 by Neo Bestia

Dennorak
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IMO, all j-mod quotes should be considered semi-canon, I think its wrong if a J-mod makes a statement/tweet that isn't an opinionated matter, and we just say "Not true" because we don't agree with it. If its contradicted in-game we can then question if its entirely not true.
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23-May-2014 23:22:13

Raxxess

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Balustan said :
Raxxess said :
Balustan said :
Raxxess said :
Balustan said :


I am not going to say Mod Stu doesn't know the quest as I have said I accept those quotes as canon but I can just as easily on the basis that you disregard quotes you don't agree with say they are non-canon.

I don't want you to go over every individual post I want you to give me an example that you consider canon of a J mod post that doesn't pain a god except Saradomin in a negative light and doesn't show Saradomin in a positive light.

You responded to me first and as such I responded t


I don't use J-mod quotes so the only thing I can point out to you is how I stopped theorizing that Garlandia's story was false when it was pointed out to be true but bias.


Erm but you do use J mod quotes... You have just said you do. This is my problem with you.


Because you are saying I claim things when I don't I use them as reference I'm not here telling you that they aren't canon. I said Mod Stu is an exception because its his quest but instead of just accepting that you again are just going to argue as long as possible.


So you have a double standard.


No I just don't take everything as canon. And I don't act like someone has to either agree with all J-mods or agree with none of them. I tend to stay away from them unless I feel they are justified, Mod Stu's is a rare exception. I may take a quote if its an ambigious you asked for an example and that's what I gave its obvious your only intention was to say "oh you J-mod quotes" But I really you just took 4 posts to ask where I may accept one and the Garlandia one I could accept.
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23-May-2014 23:22:32

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