forums.rs

Forums

Going Too Fast!

Quick find code: 341-342-348-65797843

of 9
Vardan

Vardan

Posts: 1,237 Mithril Posts by user Forum Profile RuneMetrics Profile
Lego Miester said :
What's sad is when older quests are rushed to "get them over with." Looking at you, Plague's End. I know that the dev time went into Prifddinas instead, but dangit Jagex I waited a decade for that quest.

Long questlines in general tend to have terrible endings because it's been so long since anyone, developers included, have thought about those characters, and they've often been through graphical updates as well that make them unrecognizable. I understand why that makes it appealing to make shorter, more condensed questlines, but that leaves older ones in the dust.

We're potentially getting pirate and desert quests within the next year, let's hope they do them justice.
Pirate has Xau-Tek it would seem, so I think that will be done justice. I hope desert doesn't suffer from the same shortcomings Elf had, with the focus on the city not the questline, as you pointed out.
We sleep soundly in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm.

13-Jan-2017 20:20:47

Hexie Kazumi
Jul Member 2012

Hexie Kazumi

Posts: 3,023 Adamant Posts by user Forum Profile RuneMetrics Profile
Vardan said :
Lego Miester said :
What's sad is when older quests are rushed to "get them over with." Looking at you, Plague's End. I know that the dev time went into Prifddinas instead, but dangit Jagex I waited a decade for that quest.

Long questlines in general tend to have terrible endings because it's been so long since anyone, developers included, have thought about those characters, and they've often been through graphical updates as well that make them unrecognizable. I understand why that makes it appealing to make shorter, more condensed questlines, but that leaves older ones in the dust.

We're potentially getting pirate and desert quests within the next year, let's hope they do them justice.
Pirate has Xau-Tek it would seem, so I think that will be done justice. I hope desert doesn't suffer from the same shortcomings Elf had, with the focus on the city not the questline, as you pointed out.

Considering that Menaphos is not slated to be the conclusion of the desert, and that there's likely to be at least two more quests after Crondis, I am not as concerned. It doesn't need to be the most grand thing ever because there is more desert left after it. Maybe we'll see the end of the Sophanem plague, but there is still yet more lore, like how Scabaras is still in hiding, Het seems to have vanished, and Tumeken's status is unknown. There is a lot of desert left, so this doesn't need to wrap anything up.

As far as Elf conclusion being rushed- it wasn't too bad. I don't think it was really any better or worse than previous elf quests. But then I didn't experience the full wait between MEP2 and this, seeing as I joined in 2005.

Finally- regarding gnomes and pirates (the others can be in any age.) pirates have Xau-Tak, and gnomes introduced the anima. So I'm not worried about these being left behind as much. I expect they have big plans for the gnomes in the 6th age, especially.

23-Jan-2017 05:29:38

Iceman3317
Dec Member 2023

Iceman3317

Posts: 6,635 Rune Posts by user Forum Profile RuneMetrics Profile
As stated, Menaphos is not the last quest. We still have Het, Elidinis, and Scabaras who have not appeared as models in the game. We also still have Tumeken that will probably return and probably another quest about Amascut and if you want to include probably another quest with the mahjarrat of the desert. I can't remember how to spell their names, so forgive me for that.

Also they still need to finish the main Gnome Storyline before they can actually come into the 6th Age. Even though they can blend into the 6th age, they still need to finish the actual current questline before they become big players in the 6th age. Come the Sixth-Age, the world will need the World Guardian.

24-Jan-2017 14:07:43

Kemtros
Aug Member 2022

Kemtros

Posts: 5,407 Rune Posts by user Forum Profile RuneMetrics Profile
Iceman3317 said :
As stated, Menaphos is not the last quest. We still have Het, Elidinis, and Scabaras who have not appeared as models in the game. We also still have Tumeken that will probably return and probably another quest about Amascut and if you want to include probably another quest with the mahjarrat of the desert. I can't remember how to spell their names, so forgive me for that.

Also they still need to finish the main Gnome Storyline before they can actually come into the 6th Age. Even though they can blend into the 6th age, they still need to finish the actual current questline before they become big players in the 6th age.

Rowley has made a point that he wouldn't put the Desert series into the Sixth Age unless it could improve a plot point, such as Icthlarin being our friends.

The Gnome storyline will probably have the same view as the Myreque series, where they finish it off to end the Fifth Age storyline, but leave some room open for the Sixth Age. The priority is to actually put the Fifth Age in the past.

26-Jan-2017 19:21:39

Hexie Kazumi
Jul Member 2012

Hexie Kazumi

Posts: 3,023 Adamant Posts by user Forum Profile RuneMetrics Profile
Kemtros said :
Iceman3317 said :
As stated, Menaphos is not the last quest. We still have Het, Elidinis, and Scabaras who have not appeared as models in the game. We also still have Tumeken that will probably return and probably another quest about Amascut and if you want to include probably another quest with the mahjarrat of the desert. I can't remember how to spell their names, so forgive me for that.

Also they still need to finish the main Gnome Storyline before they can actually come into the 6th Age. Even though they can blend into the 6th age, they still need to finish the actual current questline before they become big players in the 6th age.

Rowley has made a point that he wouldn't put the Desert series into the Sixth Age unless it could improve a plot point, such as Icthlarin being our friends.

The Gnome storyline will probably have the same view as the Myreque series, where they finish it off to end the Fifth Age storyline, but leave some room open for the Sixth Age. The priority is to actually put the Fifth Age in the past.

Tumeken, Amascut, and Icthlarin at least, are all very big candidates of 6th age stuff. But the other gods need their stories before we can pursue Tumeken and a desert restoration.

But at the very least, knowing how many quests remain in the desert quests is an assurance that they won't be too rushed.

I love this year of surprises thing. I feel like we'll see higher quality content because they're releasing stuff when they're ready instead of trying to always build hype for something.

Regarding gnomes, I do see this as largely 5th age. So it needs to be dealt with. All I was saying is that gnomes ought to be before pirates and penguins because the conclusion can allude to the Elder Gods pillar just as WGS alluded to the Dragonkin. Anima seems very key to the 6th age, so Arposandra may well be the stepping stone to future EG quests.

27-Jan-2017 02:29:41

Ancient Drew

Ancient Drew

Posts: 5,732 Rune Posts by user Forum Profile RuneMetrics Profile
I think that a Menaphos quest will be set in the Fifth Age like Plague's End was.

Now, here's where all the quests stopped at the Fifth Age and can continue into the Sixth Age.

Elf - Plague's End. Since then we had The Light Within, Children of Mah and Sliske's Endgame where Seren is involved, and we're still waiting on the Tarddian elves' predicament.

Desert - This, I speculate, is where the Menaphos quest comes in. We ask Icthlarin about Amascut in Sixth Age quests, and he says that she has gone mad and that we can save her. Perhaps we can try this after Menaphos gets released?

Gnome - I'm not sure if the Prisoner of Glouphrie is the last Fifth Age gnome quest or not, but Prifddinas is involved somehow. And since Glouphrie is a master of illusions and has been running experiments with the Anima Mundi, this series has some of the best potential to run into the Sixth Age. And as for his intentions, we have these quotes from Glouron in Prifddinas:
Player: What do the elves have to do with Arposandra?
Glouron: What? Nothing. Arposandra is a gnome city, for gnomes capable of seeing the greater good!
Player: What do you mean by the 'greater good'?
Glouron: The ability to prevent the limitation of progress due to outdated concepts of morality. Arposandra is a city of the future! These elves are trapped in the past.

Pirate: A Clockwork Syringe is not the end. Major implications of Xau-Tak here, and it might even tie in with the slug quests.

Dagannoth: Another series with Xau-Tak implications, the quotes made by King Vargas after Blood Runs Deep suggest something big about to happen.

Vampyre: River of Blood may have finished the Fifth Age, but there is still more that can happen, and the werewolves may branch out.

Then we have possible future heroes such as Philipe Carnillean. Also there's the Queen of Ashes, the Saradomin and possibly Bandos quests, Ape Atoll, the Elder Gods, Rite of Passage, possible Goebie quests, tons of things to prepare. Prepare for hell on RuneScape in Naval Cataclysm!

Pokemon battle? Friend Code: 4614-0426-2439

16-Feb-2017 09:04:01

Rensler
Mar Member 2020

Rensler

Posts: 668 Steel Posts by user Forum Profile RuneMetrics Profile
There definitely needs to be a follow up Quest of some sort in dealing with the Dragonkin.

I just feel followers of V, his hero/god allies or POTENTIALLY his offspring would make more sense in seeking vengeance lorewise.



We need new Gods to be introduced that can maintain in Gilienor with some sort of role.



Saradomin,Zamorak,Armadyl, Zaros and Seren are the only Gods we have still here.

We need a new God to come in as a game changer or as a breath of fresh air from the same old Gods who have been for Ages now. We thought we were going to get that with V but.

It needs to happen though change things up and starting bringing about a new age with new gods either finding Gielinor or ascending. Supporter of
Saradomin
Armadyl
Tumeken
V

17-Feb-2017 02:18:32

Questcaping
Feb Member 2020

Questcaping

Posts: 565 Steel Posts by user Forum Profile RuneMetrics Profile
Rensler said :
We need a new God to come in as a game changer or as a breath of fresh air from the same old Gods who have been for Ages now. We thought we were going to get that with V but.

The Queen of Ashes and Xau-Tak both look like they're on their way.

And the Dragonkin... having destroyed the Stone of Jas, we're at the beginning of a whole new chapter for them. Who knows how they could follow on from this?
Questcaping the Finally Questcaped

Runefest attendee 2017-2019

26-Feb-2017 07:48:20

Quick find code: 341-342-348-65797843 Back to Top