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Barnabix
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In the Time engram he says that we will never see Aagi's smile again, and that he is lost. Pretty sure he was aware that on death that was it. +1 to your interpretation.
Nick DG said :
While Guthix's initial reaction to learning he was going to die threw me off this theory a bit I do think he was refering to us being the person who told him he was going to die
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The Guardians must be in place. He/She who told me of what is to come will be the one who completes them - they will serve me as I have served their people. I will show them what it was to be me, what I lost and what their duty will become. And they, in turn, will come to see me again and tell me of what will pass
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Firstly the "he/she" would imply us as he cant say one gender as we are obviously not all male or female.
Secondly he says how he will "show them what it was to be me" which he did at the end of WW
Lastly he says "..who told me what to come will be the one who completes them" basically the one who told him of his death will be the one who will join them as a world guardian, aka us.
It's a theory but well founded i think. I was just about to post the same thing you said there
It does however seem perfectly natural/normal to me that Guthix, as well as most of the other gods, would initially be in shock upon receiving news of their own death.
Deathless I see, but even immortals will not escape my wrath!
In the Time engram he says that we will never see Aagi's smile again, and that he is lost. Pretty sure he was aware that on death that was it. +1 to your interpretation.
Nick DG said :
While Guthix's initial reaction to learning he was going to die threw me off this theory a bit I do think he was refering to us being the person who told him he was going to die
___
The Guardians must be in place. He/She who told me of what is to come will be the one who completes them - they will serve me as I have served their people. I will show them what it was to be me, what I lost and what their duty will become. And they, in turn, will come to see me again and tell me of what will pass
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Firstly the "he/she" would imply us as he cant say one gender as we are obviously not all male or female.
Secondly he says how he will "show them what it was to be me" which he did at the end of WW
Lastly he says "..who told me what to come will be the one who completes them" basically the one who told him of his death will be the one who will join them as a world guardian, aka us.
It's a theory but well founded i think. I was just about to post the same thing you said there
It does however seem perfectly natural/normal to me that Guthix, as well as most of the other gods, would initially be in shock upon receiving news of their own death.
Deathless I see, but even immortals will not escape my wrath!
16-Jan-2017 01:18:12 - Last edited on 16-Jan-2017 02:22:29 by VILE39
VILE39
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I was just about to post the same thing you said there
It does however seem perfectly natural/normal to me that Guthix, as well as most of the other gods, would initially be in shock upon receiving news of their own death.
No the reason why I was confused by it is that when we go back to the past and talk to Guthix, he is pretty calm about learning about his death.
Quote from the light within
"Player: I watched you die, Guthix. I couldn't save you.
Guthix: All things must die. That is the balance of life. For life to have meaning, it must be finite. The longer we live the more we realise that all things come to an end and that nothing is truly forever. It is mortality's greatest gift that things like friendship, peace and love can seem eternal. I have always known my death would come and it does not frighten me."
Also researching it seems guthix already knew of the key which he didnt in the engram echo
"Player: You know about the key?
Guthix: The Amserdrwys, yes. Seren and I discussed it in detail, she was very proud of the ingenuity of her elves. I cannot blame her, to step through time is a most impressive feat."
I think the thing that would make the most sense is that we weren't the first to go back in time to talk to Guthix (or someone returned to an earlier time) and it was them that told Guthix of his death initially and then when we came back it was like a confirmation
In the time echo, halfway through it says
"So it is to come, I can see that now. They have the Amserdrwys, and so it must be true; they will be my friend. It is not a fight I can win or one I wish to. Instead, I must accept what is to come"
So I think that the first part was about someone else and that when it gets to this part of the echo its slightly further in the future (for Guthix) and it's us he is talking about.
Only theory that makes sense to me...
.. I have to much time on my hands
I was just about to post the same thing you said there
It does however seem perfectly natural/normal to me that Guthix, as well as most of the other gods, would initially be in shock upon receiving news of their own death.
No the reason why I was confused by it is that when we go back to the past and talk to Guthix, he is pretty calm about learning about his death.
Quote from the light within
"Player: I watched you die, Guthix. I couldn't save you.
Guthix: All things must die. That is the balance of life. For life to have meaning, it must be finite. The longer we live the more we realise that all things come to an end and that nothing is truly forever. It is mortality's greatest gift that things like friendship, peace and love can seem eternal. I have always known my death would come and it does not frighten me."
Also researching it seems guthix already knew of the key which he didnt in the engram echo
"Player: You know about the key?
Guthix: The Amserdrwys, yes. Seren and I discussed it in detail, she was very proud of the ingenuity of her elves. I cannot blame her, to step through time is a most impressive feat."
I think the thing that would make the most sense is that we weren't the first to go back in time to talk to Guthix (or someone returned to an earlier time) and it was them that told Guthix of his death initially and then when we came back it was like a confirmation
In the time echo, halfway through it says
"So it is to come, I can see that now. They have the Amserdrwys, and so it must be true; they will be my friend. It is not a fight I can win or one I wish to. Instead, I must accept what is to come"
So I think that the first part was about someone else and that when it gets to this part of the echo its slightly further in the future (for Guthix) and it's us he is talking about.
Only theory that makes sense to me...
.. I have to much time on my hands
16-Jan-2017 18:17:02 - Last edited on 16-Jan-2017 18:33:27 by Nick DG
Nick DG
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VILE39 said :
I was just about to post the same thing you said there
It does however seem perfectly natural/normal to me that Guthix, as well as most of the other gods, would initially be in shock upon receiving news of their own death.
No the reason why I was confused by it is that when we go back to the past and talk to Guthix, he is pretty calm about learning about his death.
That's exactly what threw me off too!
The fact Guthix remained so calm and nonchalant after literally just learning that he was capable of, and was going to die when we spoke to him; a vast difference from the panic we seen in his Time Echo, which was his inner dialogue.
That's why I thought the Time Echo must have came before TLW and not after, as to be so calm about it all just said to me he was aware of this already from someone previously telling him (the theorised Time-Traveller).
Sadly I do believe that the Time-Traveller was us, and TBH, we're just as 'scum-baggy' as Sliske; going back in time to tell Guthix that he is dead in the future, which ultimately lead to Guthix conceding to his demise and allow the real scum-bag Sliske to kill him.
Not only did it hurt us to watch Guthix die, but now we know that we were responsible for it
;_; ;_; ;_; ;_;
I feel Mod Raven has had his hands in this.... Proud Owner of the
VILE39 said :
I was just about to post the same thing you said there
It does however seem perfectly natural/normal to me that Guthix, as well as most of the other gods, would initially be in shock upon receiving news of their own death.
No the reason why I was confused by it is that when we go back to the past and talk to Guthix, he is pretty calm about learning about his death.
That's exactly what threw me off too!
The fact Guthix remained so calm and nonchalant after literally just learning that he was capable of, and was going to die when we spoke to him; a vast difference from the panic we seen in his Time Echo, which was his inner dialogue.
That's why I thought the Time Echo must have came before TLW and not after, as to be so calm about it all just said to me he was aware of this already from someone previously telling him (the theorised Time-Traveller).
Sadly I do believe that the Time-Traveller was us, and TBH, we're just as 'scum-baggy' as Sliske; going back in time to tell Guthix that he is dead in the future, which ultimately lead to Guthix conceding to his demise and allow the real scum-bag Sliske to kill him.
Not only did it hurt us to watch Guthix die, but now we know that we were responsible for it
;_; ;_; ;_; ;_;
I feel Mod Raven has had his hands in this.... Proud Owner of the
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