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DoogleHallow

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More Icyene Dialogue is up! AMH, this might go nicely at the beginning of the thread since there's lots of lovely information about the Icyene homeworld

So the Icyene homeworld is an ocean planet (I'm assuming planes are planets now) littered with planets and with one half in perpetual darkness as the planet rotates around its Sun. I'm thinking that the dark half is Vampyrium and the light half is Icyrium. But that's just my brain trying to connect Icyene and Vyres at every possible turn.

24-Jul-2013 10:47:31

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It's certainly not unreasonable to make that connection, especially since Mod Osborne said that there is an intricate link between the Icyene and the Vampyres.

It would also make sense that Safalaan could have gone to Vampyrium, in order to access the Icyene's home. However, as Balustan has said, the opening of the 6th Age has thrown everything into doubt.

24-Jul-2013 15:40:50

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Goldmage162

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I haven't really been keeping up with this thread as much as I should, I was wondering if someone could quickly thresh out for me the two invasions theory regarding the Icyene and Drakan's holdings in Morytania over time, as I'm a bit confused by it.

25-Jul-2013 14:01:36

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The theory essentially goes like this:

During the Third Age, Drakan successfully conquers Morytania. In response, the Icyene are sent to kick them out and liberate the area. They succeed in doing so and drive Drakan underground (Burgh de Rott and the underground laboratory area). Approximately 800 years after the Drakan went underground, he launches a surprise attack on what is now Castle Drakan, taking Ascertes hostage and forcing Efaritay to surrender. This happens during the Fourth Age, and Drakan's 'reconquest' has not been successfully challenged to this day.

Some of us have believed this for some time now, due to evidence such as Vertida's mention of the Icyene responding to the Vampyres during BoD. Recently, a jmod said something that added even more credence to the theory. It's several pages back, so I can't remember who said what, but it's there.

Edit: Here it is.

DoogleHallow said :
From Mod Osbornes 2 minute challenge: "The vampyres took over one room claiming it was theirs"

This gets said after Guthix wakes up at the end of the God Wars. Up to date confirmation that the vampyres invaded in the 4th Age. Although that video is a bit all over the place, everything he said post-3rd Age was all accurate within the timeline.

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Hey Ya

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Seems like the Myreque series are losing much of it's plot, now as the sixth age is here. The Myreque series should have been finished before they introduced the Gods series and the sixth age.

Guess they're gonna wrap it all in one quest.. That's like "Oh, it's Lord Drakan himself! I've been waiting almost 10 years for this!", and then "Oh, thank god, he was killed by that random pillar".

On another note, I wonder what Tytn's plans for the series was. It would be fun getting in contact with him and figure out.

25-Jul-2013 17:50:10

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There are two ways of looking at the situation. That's the negative way, and there is some merit to it. In my opinion, the revelation that the Icyene are alive and coming to Gielinor should have been a Myreque thing. They're an integral part of both Morytania's history and the Myreque storyline. One of the big questions (think Amelia and Rory) was 'Will the Icyene return?' That's been stolen from the series, and there's a danger that the mystique of Morytania will be ruined by too much interference from what is going on in other parts of Gielinor. Morytania is not a backyard; it is a closed-off, evil land.

Furthermore, Jagex seemed to have changed tack regarding how many sequels the series would have. Until recently, we've known that Jagex planned two quests to finish the series. Now that it's only going to be one, we should expect less content (= less questions answered in an exciting way). I sincerely hope they don't fluff Drakan's appearance. Both Ana and Tytn have been very successful with keeping Drakan a mystery, but I fear that someone else might have ideas about turning Drakan into some monkey to play the Sixth Age music box.

The positive way, however, is to take what Mod Ana and Osborne have said at heart and trust that the Myreque storyline is 'still very much in their plans'.

One of the problems with a Fifth Age ending is how to deal with Morytania as whole once the series ends. A 'good' and climatic ending would go something like this: the Icyene come back at the last hour to save the Myreque, banish the Vampyres for good and reinstate the Hallow dynasty so that the Hallowland may be restored to its former glory. This probably can't be done in an MMORPG like Runescape, so what were they do to? The Sixth Age might offer an acceptable and (hopefully) epic alternative.

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Balustan

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It would seem that Mod Ana has been working on the new skill. Which would explain what she has been doing in this rather long absense. So when that is finished Myreque will possibly prevail.

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26-Jul-2013 22:01:00

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Goldmage162

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Thank you for clarifying the theory!

WHere did you hear that they decided to only do 1 more Meryque quest instead of two? I ahdnt heard anything of the sort.

Problem with the sixth age is, presumably Morytania would end upp becoming a Saradomin vs. Zamorak battle. Problem is , if enough people side with Zamorak, the Meryque will never be free of Drakan....

On the other hand, it might not be that way. Zamorak's main philosophy is Strength through Chaos. There is very little chaos going on in Morytania, it's all a carefully structured hierarchy, with the Vampyres leeching power from those below them.

While he might not want Saradomin in charge there, I can't see Zamorak liking it there the way it is either. Drakan, in all probability knows this, and probably would want to keep Morytania the way it is.

If so, the commonly speculated break between Drakan and Zamorak might happen. Again, another if, if "the stone" Drakan is looking for is the SoJ ( with a desire to break from Zamorak giving him good reason to find it) we might liberate Morytania from the Vampyres no matter which god here we choose, since Drakan and the Vampyres will attempt to form their own faction.

Furthermore, if Zamorak dosnt step in, Saradomin himself probably won't (he'll be facing off against some other god somewhere), but the Icyene might. So the Icyene and player might help deliver Morytania from teh Vampyres, eliminating a potential upstart newborn godling (Drakan) without ruffling any other gods feathers or making the gods themselves enter the Morytanian picture.

27-Jul-2013 23:00:50

Balustan

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Well we must remember that the Vampyres are not Zamorakian and that Zamorak only aided in the taking of Morytania in return for Drakan's help in overthrowing Zaros. It was a deal not a reward or anything so while I imagine Drakan still views Zamorak as an equal and they would still talk I do not think they would be adverse to going against each other if necessary.

They can continue the Myreque in the 6th age just fine as long as the gods ignore it for at least a while. They do have bigger concerns.

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27-Jul-2013 23:04:28

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I should add that Mod Osborne said that Drakan will be interested in the return of his 'two former masters'. It's not just Zamorak that Drakan has to think about; it's Zaros too.

To add to the mix, we have Sliske on the move with the Barrows Brothers soon to change in some way. I will be amazed if Morytania isn't shaken in some way by Sliske alone, never mind Zamorak or Zaros. The place is riddled with the undead. Will the quest involving Sliske and Icthlarin touch on Drakan's domain?

As for the one final quest? I'm afraid I can't remember, but I suspect that it was in a lore Q and A on these forums.

27-Jul-2013 23:52:52 - Last edited on 27-Jul-2013 23:54:50 by [#TWA99I4ZX]

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