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Alrighty then. I know some of these are a bit late by a few months, so bear with me.

Pure, about your response to my theory:

"Yes, but this happened during TWW as well. The Saradominists and Zamorakians put their differences aside in order to get rid of the Edicts. Neither side is happy with the current deadlock, so they might as well work together to get out of it. Once that happens, they will go to war again as each side believes in its cause. It's a little bit like how the USA and co. remained allied to the Soviets toward the end of WW2 knowing that they will be opposed once the Axis powers had been defeated. Until then, they might as well work together to get the job done in the most efficient manner, but there was still a race to Berlin going on between them."
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Correct me if I'm wrong (it's been a long, long, loooooong time since i did the quest those guys appeared in), but wasn't their ultimate goal to start a war between the nations and the removal of the edicts were just a roadblock to their plans? Or was removing the edicts their main plot in the first place?

You do make a fair point either way, but at the time I was at a loss as to what they all had to gain from a war if that was their goal.

Good point, but these particular Zamorakian humans probably don't align themselves with the rest of humanity and are propably working for their own reward
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Or they might have been vampyres in disguise. We have no clue just how weak the salve is at this rate (or if there's even something wrong with it, though if werewolves are crossing over it cant be in good shape), and I believe we've witnessed at least one to two cases of vampyres shapeshifting into forms that were somewhat convincing disguises (Vanescula's little girl form in Branches, and I think Vanstrom looked completely human when we first met the guy).

*Continued*
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29-Jul-2013 01:49:07 - Last edited on 29-Jul-2013 01:49:59 by A Mad Hatter

A Mad Hatter
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*Ran outta room last post*
Raispher: It's worth remembering that it was the king who was eager for war while Raispher was reluctant about it. In the end, he obeyed the king's orders to undermine the Edicts, but it is his duty to obey. Of course, Raispher could just be putting on a show to make us think this, but it is sometimes possible to over-analyse a situation and come to the wrong conclusion as a result

I'll be the first to admit I forgot that little detail (again, its been years since I finished that quest). But now times have changed and gods physically walk the land. I'm not so sure where Raispher's true loyalty lies now, but I'm willing to bet if the king starts wanting to back out of the war on the Morytania front and Saradomin himself sees an opportunity to get a foothold in the region, he'll have no qualms about ordering such a well positioned church member to assume command of the area until the god can arrive to get things in order to his liking.

But, whether Raispher will listen to such a command or not is up in the air.

Your find on Fistandantilus' name's origin is brilliant, but it doesn't necessarily mean that he is the one trying to achieve godhood. It's probably a clue left behind by Mod Tytn that the pursuit of godhood is a scarlet chord running through the Myreque storyline. We now know, thanks to Mod Osborne, that Drakan is after the Stone of Jas which probably means that he is after godhood

Tbh I can't really recall the last time ascending to godhood was even alluded to in the series, so I just got a tad suspicious about the name.

But as far as Drakan goes, how can we know his true intentions? We have no idea exactly what it is the Stone of Jas even does at this rate besides act as a superpowered battery of sorts (which Drakan might be willing to exploit just to break the salve barrier completely). And the guy's apparently already immortal and has a lot of personal strength, so what does he stand to gain from godhood?
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29-Jul-2013 02:01:30 - Last edited on 29-Jul-2013 02:13:44 by A Mad Hatter

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This makes the picture much more complicated. I reckon that Raispher and his Saradominist co-conspirators are staunch Saradominists who want a war for the same reason as Zilyana: the ascension of Saradomin as the god of Gielinor. As for the seemingly Zamorakian conspirators, there are a few possibilities. The first is that they just want to do the same for Zamorak. The second is that they could be after their own reward in the process (which could be true of the Saradominists too)
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Completely possible, I admit.

But underlying all of this, as you say, is a third party. In fact, there may be a FOURTH party which the third party doesn't know about! For example, Vanescula may have got the ball rolling so that a Saradominist army comes screaming over the salve (as the salve is still toxic to the Vampyres). When this happens, she can show up Drakan as a non-entity who has failed to keep the enemy at bay. She can then take charge of Morytania's forces, push back the invaders and use the occassion to rally the Vampyres to her cause and oust the 'weak' Drakan. Meanwhile, Drakan could be fully aware of Vanescula's plan and use it to further his own purposes. He might even be the one arranging the whole thing
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But what if Vanescula is the one doing the plotting, what would happen if Drakan doesn't play along and ends up slaughtering the invading armies? This is the guy who made the region into the cesspool it is today, after all. Surely if he can take the area he can defend it just as easily.

Or he could be the real mastermind behind the whole thing as you say. In that case, we might be able to turn the conspiracy to our own ends. Does anybody really think a Vampyre who took the time to plot something like this out will actually let any loose ends live if it jeopardizes the plan?

I swear I had more to say to your points, but for one reason or another they're not really all that relevant thanks to current events. Either way, thanks for making me think.
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29-Jul-2013 02:11:45 - Last edited on 29-Jul-2013 02:12:23 by A Mad Hatter

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Daeyalt highlights a weakness, rather than being one itself, meaning it likely acts as a catalyst, therefore daeyalt works in conjunction with another weakness, of which blisterwood, blood dependency, the Ivandis Flail and the Salve are the prominent ones. This also means that the vyres are either trying to keep it from us, or Vanescula is pulling strings.

First, one thing that is apparent is that the areas surrounding the Stone of Jas during inactivity tend to produce rune essence, while areas where the stone is used leave a strong magical residue and give out energy. Daeyalt is a similar colour to the fist of guthix and glacors, which tells us that the stone was likely used there and that daeyalt gives out energy rather than absorbs it*


Just a side thought. You said the stone leaves Rune Essence in the surrounding areas while inactive. We happened to use Rune Essence to get rid of whatever the Zamorakians did to the Salve to weaken it. You might be onto something here, so what if we could somehow use Rune Essence and Daeyalt together to do something like....say.....reinforce the blisterwood weapons so we can kill vampyres and release the souls from their corpses without cremation?

Wouldn't saradomin be able to smite the Drakans a little too easily?

One would think so, but seeing how Zamorak took down Zaros like he did, I don't think Saradomin might be able to just steamroll his way over them without encountering heavy resistance from just about any vampyre caught in his path who wasn't paid off beforehand. And that's not even getting into potential Drakan/Zaros or Drakan/Zamorak alliances either O_o

More Icyene Dialogue is up! AMH, this might go nicely at the beginning of the thread since there's lots of lovely information about the Icyene homeworld :)

Dialogue you say? I haven't seen it on this thread yet, so could you be so kind as to tell me where this was put up? I don't have access to Saradomin's camp so I can't check for myself :(
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29-Jul-2013 02:23:04 - Last edited on 29-Jul-2013 02:49:54 by A Mad Hatter

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Alright, last post. I swear.

So the Icyene homeworld is an ocean planet (I'm assuming planes are planets now) littered with planets and with one half in perpetual darkness as the planet rotates around its Sun. I'm thinking that the dark half is Vampyrium and the light half is Icyrium. But that's just my brain trying to connect Icyene and Vyres at every possible turn.

I have to agree with Pure when he said it's not an unreasonable connection. Or it could be that the Icyene homeworld has a moon that the Vampyres came from instead, but that's probably just me trying to wrap my head around Vampyres living on an ocean planet O_o

Seems like the Myreque series are losing much of it's plot, now as the sixth age is here. The Myreque series should have been finished before they introduced the Gods series and the sixth age.

Eh, I can see it going both ways. It would be interesting to see the series end before the 6th age and have a fallout series run during the return of the gods ordeal, but at the same time having the gods come out to play during the Myreque's conflict has potential for a few brutal twists and turns too.

Guess they're gonna wrap it all in one quest.. That's like "Oh, it's Lord Drakan himself! I've been waiting almost 10 years for this!", and then "Oh, thank god, he was killed by that random pillar".

Please. Don't even joke about that. It's just too cruel an ending to even suggest at this point *insert bad memories of a certain finale here D:*

On another note, I wonder what Tytn's plans for the series was. It would be fun getting in contact with him and figure out.

I'm sure somebody else around here might know for sure, but didn't he leave notes behind detailing how the rest of the series was supposed to go? Because if he did I think it would be neat if a certain someone gave us some clues about how it was originally going to turn out once the series is finished (totally not a hint, just saying it'd be kinda neat to see :D )
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29-Jul-2013 02:59:47

A Mad Hatter
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Anddd.....that seems to be all I have for the time being. Once again, sorry for the real long absence. Now that my computer situation is fixed and work is stable, I should be around a lot more than I have been over the past few months.

Thanks for keeping this running in the meantime too, everyone. :)
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29-Jul-2013 03:01:52

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As you say, AMH, the arrival of the Sixth Age could change everything. Mod Osborne and Mod Ana's comments about Drakan and the series strongly suggest that the finale will be set in the Sixth Age, so I'm afraid that we can rule out Fifth Age politics from the equation.

Your (and Doogle's?) comments about rune essence, daeyalt ore and the SoJ are very interesting. If you're correct, it could very well be daeyalt ore that has/is weakening the Salve barrier. If that's the case, Drakan might not be interested in increasing his personal powers after all.

Balustan, do you have any idea how long it will take Mod Ana to finish the new skill? While I really want to see the series rolling again, I think it might be a good thing that the next (and probably last) quest won't be released soon, lest the hype and excitement of the Sixth Age might rob the series of its glory.

29-Jul-2013 13:36:39

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Well, the new skill is coming out, probably, within the Next Two Weeks, so it's presumable that Mod Ana can move on to a new quest to work on right now.

As per the Above the Lore Podcast's Chaos Elemental hint, it seems that she already has. The Hint said something about the University of Alabama, and a queen. The University of Alabama's sports team is called "Crimson Tide," which could reference the Vampyres, and the Queen could be Vanescula herself.
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29-Jul-2013 13:43:55

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Wait until the BTS and wait to see what Ana has to say about the skill on the podcast tbh. It might be that she needs to work on the 2nd skill too since they relate to each other. (I do not have as much faith in Ana when it comes to things which are not quests tbh).

Then we can poke for Myreque as I have been doing for the elf series in every Q&A ever.
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