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DoogleHallow

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Its unknown who exactly was in control of Morytania at that time, but whoever it was certainly moved out during that time when Drakan took control. It was likely either Saradomnist (but not Hallowvale), already Zarosian or simply open land, much the same as Kandarin was at the time if I remember correctly

02-Aug-2013 06:10:02

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02-Aug-2013 09:13:57

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DoogleHallow said :
Its unknown who exactly was in control of Morytania at that time, but whoever it was certainly moved out during that time when Drakan took control. It was likely either Saradomnist (but not Hallowvale), already Zarosian or simply open land, much the same as Kandarin was at the time if I remember correctly


As Doogle says, there is very little information about the political geography of Morytania in the 2nd and 3rd Ages (or the 1st and 4th Ages for that matter.) In fact, there's no concrete proof that Drakan conquered Morytania during the 3rd Age, but the evidence we have suggests that this happened.

Here's one item to consider. Mod John A wrote a story called 'The Song from Before the War' about the God Wars of the 3rd Age in which Zamorakian forces were slowly pushing the Saradominists south. Take this quote:

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The Front has moved twenty kilometres south in the last hundred years. Zamorak sends powerful demons to raze every settlement they can reach. If we stop pushing back, Uzer itself could be in danger."
Uzer was the pinnacle of our civilization, safe far behind the Front--surely it could never be in danger?


Hallowvale is somewhat north of Uzer in terms of latitude, but it's possible that Morytania was included in the front's reach from east to west. If this is true, it is more than likely that 'Hallowvale', or what it was in the 3rd Age, fell just in the Saradominists' sphere of influence.

What we do know is that Zaros controlled the north-west corner of Morytania during the 2nd Age. It's more than likely that this fell to Zamorak soon after and was used as a base for Zamorak/Drakan's push south.

Hope this helps.

02-Aug-2013 13:31:48

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Sennliten's quote is interesting and odd at the same time. Here it is.

[qfc id=]Senliten: That vile creature Zaros and his minions. Ever plotting in the dark lands of Morytania.[/qfc]

The information we have on Morytania during the 2nd Age, Zaros' Age, suggests that not only was Morytania not 'dark', it wasn't even called Morytania! Remember, it was only after Zamorak had rebelled that Drakan was allowed to conquer Morytania, and he was the one that transformed it into the dark place that it is today.

Personally, I would take that quest's lore regarding Morytania with a pinch of salt. We do know that Zaros had the NW corner of Morytania, but it certainly wasn't his capital and therefore an unlikely place to 'plot' anything, although it is possible that he was able to attack Senliten's civilisation via the south of Morytania.

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On another note, there's another thread in which the author asked Mod Osborne what the stone was that Drakan was obsessed with. Mod Osborne said it was definitely the Stone of Jas.

Forgive me for bringing up an old topic, but what possible implications does this have on the series? Who else is after the SoJ, and are there any locations marked out as possible places for the stone to be in right now? Drakan is bound to clash with outside powers if he is after the stone itself. I think we can be sure that he's not just after daeyalt ore, given the stone has much more potential power than just 'highlighting a weakness'.

03-Aug-2013 00:04:50

Pupppy II

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Hey just re-found this topic, but don't think I can read all of the posts since last time I checked :/

About the morytania and senliten, she has resources enough to know about the current name of the regions to make it understandable to the player. She has one golem at her tomb I think, as well as the constant contact with Leela; and finally might have contact with the explorers of the outside.


About third age and the Song Before the War, I think you are cutting important part of the quote:

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"You should be glad your village is in Saradomin's territory. Do you know the Army of Zamorak's recruitment tactics?"

Mazakon's authority made Tasgall sound like a child arguing with his elders. "Kidnapping, torture and brainwashing, I know. I am grateful to the Army of Saradomin, but..."

"But you think you know better than the Icyene High Command how to use the army's resources?"

"I didn't say that," Tasgall said, defeated. But then he blurted: "But what good does sending whole villages to the Front do? The lines haven't moved since I fought there."

"This is why there are no humans in the High Command," Mazakon said sternly. "You don't live long enough to see the whole picture. The Front has moved twenty kilometres south in the last hundred years. Zamorak sends powerful demons to raze every settlement they can reach. If we stop pushing back, Uzer itself could be in danger.


I take it as saradomin troops are getting desperate due to zamorak's forces gainign terrain, meaning they are pushing from north; and Mazakon fears soon they can push further south to reach Uzer. Remember where the Abbey is, it is the place where the saint icyene humangirl died.

Uzer is further south, a saradominist base. North is zamorakian, and if you take it from the map at the Abbey, it is indeed what we know now as Morytania. Don't forget how the Barrows Brothers attacked the lands from enemy hands, being hold off at the gates of the capital city.

cont.

03-Aug-2013 00:18:30

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