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DoogleHallow

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It has been a long time since I did these quests, my memory is quite rusty. But that definately rings a bell, so I guess we have a full scale Morytania-Misthalin war about to break out.

Theres nothing Vampyric in the desert, but the northern desert was definately held by the Saradomnists during the 3rd age at some point. Its possible that the south was also held when the Zarosians started to thin out, so perhaps southern Sophanem has some Icyene stuff in it which could be within rowing distance from the Sanguinesti region. Or flying, perhaps, since the boat is still there for us after the cutscene.

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Soraz Drakyl

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So the desert is being involved, eh? I did as such myself in my work, back and forth it goes though, slightly involves the desert, but never thought of any possible use Sophanem could be. My version is simple to just pass by during a cut-scene, which Safalaan does.
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07-May-2013 00:02:52

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13-May-2013 12:05:26

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&amp;amp;amp;amp;quot;we can do more things with Drakan now that the edicts are gone&amp;amp;amp;amp;quot; (form the lore podcast)

So, Drakan either wants to be a god or he is trying to bring one into Gielinor. Discuss!

There may have been some interaction between the desert and Morytania in the past. Tarn Razorlor suggests that his lair might have been originally built to fend off desert bandit attacks. Regardless of whether or not that was the case, it gives the possibility of such a link existing.

I listened to the latest podcast. Interestingly, Mod Ana says that Tytn didn't leave a note behind to explain why the haemalchemy laboratory was abandoned. The issue will be looked at, but it won't be a main focus of the series. So what does that leave us with?

- Ivan Strom
- Vanstrom (possibly, and possibly related to above)
- Daeyalt ore
- Drakan and his plans (related to above)
- Disillusionment of various Vampyres (related to above)
- Finding Safalaan
- Vanescula's plans (related to above)
- Link between the Icyene and the Vampyres (Mod Osborne's 'minefield')
- Efaritay and Ascertes (related to above)
- Calsidiu
- Misthalin's plans
- New: Saradomin's return
- God Wars (related to above)
- Conspiracy at Paterdomus (might become a spin-off)
- Werewolves across the Salve (might become a spin-off)
- Lord Rologarth (perhaps)

Anything else?

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DoogleHallow

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Since Mod Ana is now the go-to for God Quests and good quests in general, I reckon she will bring the God Wars to Morytania. Saradomin is certainly going to want the Hallowlands back, Zamorak will be needing a place to raise an army and Drakan could be aspiring for Godhood himself. That, along with the Myreque and Vansecula, makes a total possible 5 parties fighting for control of Morytania, with us caught in the middle of them. A fittingly dramatic, complex and interesting debacle with potential to delve into just about everything on your list.

Did anyone feel that Mod Ana was slightly unsure of where to go with the Myreque? There were no clear cut answers regarding Morytania in the podcast, though I expected very few.

13-May-2013 17:31:36 - Last edited on 13-May-2013 17:34:55 by DoogleHallow

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I suspect that's because of the reasons in your previous paragraph. Given that so much could happen in Morytania, where do the Myreque fit in? They are, after all, an ill-equipped, secretive resistance group, and therefore hardly match the significance of Misthalin, Saradomin et al. This is problematic, given that the series is based them and their struggle.

Still, I think the 6th Age will give Mod Ana a lot of breathing space regarding Morytania in general. There was always the problem of giving the Myreque storyline a satisfying conclusion without changing the make-up of Morytania (e.g. minigames). The 6th Age might allow for some other alternatives.

13-May-2013 18:32:26

Ojacha

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'There may have been some interaction between the desert and Morytania in the past.'

I believe I read on Runescape wikia that Drakan was among the many to attempt taking over the desert in the third age. Might be a connection there if it's true.

Didn't Ana say she didn't want other quests to mix up with the Myreque storyline. That would be hard to believe now with all the sixth age stuff going on, other stories being included even seems more likely now.

I aim for Drakan wanting to become a god himself. He's only interested in gaining power for his own, be it by aiding those more powerful than him or by his own actions.

'If there is no one left to stand behind, then I will have to stand alone.'

13-May-2013 19:13:45

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I totally agree with you. Drakan is in a perfect setting to become a force in his own right. It would also explain why he is so focused on his 'stone' at the expense of public affairs in Morytania, as he will see the power gained from it to outweigh any threat that is generated while he is distracted, if that is even the case.

As for Drakan in the desert, I don't know where the information comes from regarding his movements in the Third Age. The truth is that we know very little about Drakan and his movements at all.

Perhaps that information was derived from Senliten, the Pharaoh queen, who said

That vile creature Zaros and his minions. Ever plotting in the dark lands of Morytania. During my reign, we defeated him temporarily with the aid of the Stern Judges.

Granted, this is referring to Zaros and the Second Age, but Zaros has never been linked specifically to Morytania like this before. I can see why someone would think that 'his minions' would be the Vampyres if they were based in Morytania, the 'dark lands' at the time. Again, other than that, I can't think of any source which specifically links Drakan to the desert.

In relation, this gem from Senliten raises some rather interesting points. From our very sketchy record of history, it is usually argued that Morytania was the lush, green land of Hallowland before Drakan conquered it during the Third Age. If that's the case, why does Senliten refer to the place as the 'dark lands' of the Second Age if it was ruled by Saradomin's Icyene who knew it as Hallowland? Nobody ever refers to Saradominist lands as 'dark'.

Perhaps the quest writer got his details mixed up and Senliten is incorrect. Or, perhaps, it is more evidence to back up my theory of the Drakan reconquest ? That is, Drakan possessed Morytania before the Icyene did, lost it to them, and then launched the surprise attack which restored Drakan's rule to this day.

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DoogleHallow

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I thought we established that as fact rather than theory?

I think I had a theory on the specifics of this a while back, but its on my old laptop so its no longer available to me in full. The idea was, that when Zamorak overthrew Zaros he promised Drakan Morytania not to conquer but simply by dividing up the territory so as to keep his allies happy with him, or to give him a stronghold when he returned. Drakan then held this throughout the entirety of the 3rd age, before losing it to the Icyene when the gods were banished. He then reclaimed it year 820 of the 4th Age, placing the Burgh de Rott diary at the turn of the 4th Age.

However, the Icyene would not have reclaimed the Hallowland without the vampyres losing something to make them as weak as the Icyene, who we had assumed just lost the Stone of Jas. This is what confuses me now, I'm sure I had it all figured out. Perhaps the vampyres stole the Stone towards the end of the 3rd Age, whereas the Icyene attention was previously focused on Zamorak who held the lands to the North near the ritual marker, then with the Icyene now on their doorstep they were helpless when the Stone was taken by Guthix when he awoke.

13-May-2013 22:45:21

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I'd say it's best to call it theory until we can get more facts to flesh out the narrative. Oh how that will be the day!

Anyway, I agree with your timing, but I would disagree with some of the details. Vertida said that the Icyene came to fight the Vampyres, suggesting that Drakan was there first. Also, we don't know when the Stone of Jas was actually in Morytania or what happened to it there.

If I'm wrong about the point, please correct me. I've written 18,000 words worth of history essays in the past month, so my mind is going to explode if I push it too hard on Runescape history too!

13-May-2013 23:07:02

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