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Solanumtinkr

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Sepulchre said :
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Oh yeah, our plans always bear the perfect fruit. We always avoid disaster. I mean just ask Cyrisus, Hazelmere, The Myreque, Brand/Astrid, Guthix...

Oh wait, you can't. Hazelmere knew exactly what he was getting into. He knew what would happen to him. He also knew that we would win and may even have known about us becoming the world guardian. Only in so much that we would take his place, though you could argue the accuracy of that one either way. The purpose of adventure is to shine light into dark places,
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14-Sep-2016 06:37:42

Ancient Drew

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Solanumtinkr said :
Sepulchre said :
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Oh yeah, our plans always bear the perfect fruit. We always avoid disaster. I mean just ask Cyrisus, Hazelmere, The Myreque, Brand/Astrid, Guthix...

Oh wait, you can't. Hazelmere knew exactly what he was getting into. He knew what would happen to him. He also knew that we would win and may even have known about us becoming the world guardian. Only in so much that we would take his place, though you could argue the accuracy of that one either way. I would go so far as to say they were all martyrs anyway. The ones who went to fight Lucien in WGS anyway. The Myreque knew what they were getting into, fighting vampyres without silver or garlic. Cyrisus died having had the courage to fight Lucien. And Guthix wanted to die - why he chose to die at the hands of Sliske I don't know - and Brand/Astrid were probably happy to die for our love. They all knew they were going to die, and didn't mind about it. Prepare for hell on RuneScape in Naval Cataclysm!

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14-Sep-2016 16:57:39

Sepulchre
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You're missing my point.

IF we were as good on our own as we could be with Zaros's guidance, none of them would've HAD to die. A
World Guardian
must learn to find
Balance
in themselves.
Only then can they
Control
themselves and forge their own
Fate .

15-Sep-2016 06:31:41

Quael
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Sepulchre said :
You're missing my point.

IF we were as good on our own as we could be with Zaros's guidance, none of them would've HAD to die.

That's the thing, we don't need someone to decide if we die or not, we don't need some kind of guidance to decide when we have to die. That disturbs the balance in the way life and death works. Besides, they would still have died, one way or another, something would have killed them. Plus Guthix wanted to die, we can't say he didn't, and he wouldn't have wanted Zaros to guide teh mortals or influence them at all.
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15-Sep-2016 20:09:07 - Last edited on 15-Sep-2016 20:11:54 by Quael

Hazeel

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Sepulchre said :
You're missing my point.

IF we were as good on our own as we could be with Zaros's guidance, none of them would've HAD to die.

Zaros is very willing to let people--thousands of people--die for the sake of his plans. Runescape doesn't need a hero...it needs a villain. An all encompassing force of evil that will remain ever-threatening and use chaos to make the peoples of Gielinor tolerate each other, grow strong together, and fight side by side against this evil. I am that villain.

15-Sep-2016 21:10:58

Maiden China

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Hazeel said :
Sepulchre said :
You're missing my point.

IF we were as good on our own as we could be with Zaros's guidance, none of them would've HAD to die.

Zaros is very willing to let people--thousands of people--die for the sake of his plans. You misspelled millions. And I misspelled 'everyone except zaros and seren' Carn

17-Sep-2016 04:01:12

TwistedDeity

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Gods (aside from Guthix) demand worship, leaders do not. Guthix brought about the idea of being godless (everyone is equal) other gods still hold themselves above other beings, leaders dont always do this. Gods pertain to worship, leaders just make sure everyone is taken care of.

Your logic i am sorry to say is flawed.

19-Sep-2016 02:02:34

Sepulchre
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Hazeel said :
Sepulchre said :
You're missing my point.

IF we were as good on our own as we could be with Zaros's guidance, none of them would've HAD to die.

Zaros is very willing to let people--thousands of people--die for the sake of his plans. This coming from the Zamorakian. A
World Guardian
must learn to find
Balance
in themselves.
Only then can they
Control
themselves and forge their own
Fate .

19-Sep-2016 04:35:33

Sepulchre
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Quael said :
Sepulchre said :
You're missing my point.

IF we were as good on our own as we could be with Zaros's guidance, none of them would've HAD to die.

That's the thing, we don't need someone to decide if we die or not, we don't need some kind of guidance to decide when we have to die. That disturbs the balance in the way life and death works.
Besides, they would still have died, one way or another, something would have killed them
. Plus Guthix wanted to die, we can't say he didn't, and he wouldn't have wanted Zaros to guide teh mortals or influence them at all. Well by THAT logic, we should all just lay on the floor until we starve to death, since we're "going to die anyway." If anything, Lucien and all he caused was a huge disturbance to the Balance. Raising all these undead and demonic warriors, killing all these people, gaining all this power.. not to mention unleashing the Dragonkin. A
World Guardian
must learn to find
Balance
in themselves.
Only then can they
Control
themselves and forge their own
Fate .

19-Sep-2016 04:40:01

Hazeel

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Sepulchre said :
Hazeel said :
Sepulchre said :
You're missing my point.

IF we were as good on our own as we could be with Zaros's guidance, none of them would've HAD to die.

Zaros is very willing to let people--thousands of people--die for the sake of his plans. This coming from the Zamorakian.

By no means am I saying I wouldn't do the same...but I am not arguing for mortality. You are. Runescape doesn't need a hero...it needs a villain. An all encompassing force of evil that will remain ever-threatening and use chaos to make the peoples of Gielinor tolerate each other, grow strong together, and fight side by side against this evil. I am that villain.

19-Sep-2016 05:00:46 - Last edited on 19-Sep-2016 05:05:55 by Hazeel

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