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Solanumtinkr

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Aig123 said :

I'm also curious as to what assets the Godless have besides Vorago. Are they backed by a magical institute? Funded by Taverley druids or royalty? They don't appear well equipped to take on a God anyway, even the Dragonkin have had more progress Godslaying.
From what I understand they were oringianlly supposed to get Invention, but general out cry put an end to that. It is only recently, after their win against Tuska, that plans are being laid. They are testing out the water.

Seemingly to follow in Guthix footsteps a little way. By delving into research of Anima itself. So a Godslaying method may not be that far out of reach. But if you want to be the biggest and most annoying noob you can. You develop an easy to use and eagerly adopted method by the masses that can protect and harm Divine Anima. An anti-god/anima gun/shield/magic on every street corner?

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04-Sep-2016 08:52:55 - Last edited on 04-Sep-2016 09:28:24 by Solanumtinkr

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Wahisietel

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The difference between a god and an extremely powerful mortal is that powerful mortals are incapable of destruction on a global scale. Additionally, they can and will be taken down eventually, as Lucien and Lord Drakan showed. Gods are so powerful that it takes either another god or a freak accident to dispatch. You never were our brightest star, Khazard. 'Vermin slaughtered like lambs'? What does that even mean?

04-Sep-2016 09:12:33

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AesirWarrior

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There's a pretty big difference between a god and just any other mortal leader.

- The gods have ridiculous power even without their followers.
- The gods live longer than 99% of other creatures.
- The gods are essentially walking WMDs
- The gods have magic superior to 99% of other creatures.

... The list goes on.

Imagine a nuke. Now imagine that that nuke can teleport to anywhere in the world... And that it's stupidly hard to destroy... And that it can do mind control... And a ton of other stuff.

You're right, getting rid of destruction is not feasible. Getting rid of the world changing nukes that outclass all other beings and have (probably) done more damage than any other sentient thing in the cosmos? That sounds like a far more reasonable thing.

I do have some problems with the godless, but their hatred of the gods is more than justified. -

I have noticed your kind does tend to blindly stumble forward towards danger simply because it exists. What is your word for that?

- We call it being a hero.

04-Sep-2016 16:07:59

Hazeel

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AesirWarrior said :
- The gods have ridiculous power even without their followers.

True.

AesirWarrior said :
- The gods live longer than 99% of other creatures.

Dragonkin, Demons(+ several dozen subspecies), Vyres, Mahjarrat, Elves(?), Naragi(?), Zarytes, Golems, Ga'al, Dragons, Phoenixes, Sea Slugs, Tzhaar (+a dozen subspecies), Tokhaar(+a dozen subspecies) and these are just the ones I know about. Many species I don't know how long they live at all.

AesirWarrior said :
- The gods are essentially walking WMDs

True.

AesirWarrior said :
- The gods have magic superior to 99% of other creatures.

And yet, if mortals can beat them, does that not prove that said mortals are even more of a threat? What of others like Hostilius, the Dragonkin...........Vorago? Runescape doesn't need a hero...it needs a villain. An all encompassing force of evil that will remain ever-threatening and use chaos to make the peoples of Gielinor tolerate each other, grow strong together, and fight side by side against this evil. I am that villain.

04-Sep-2016 16:26:24

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AesirWarrior

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Hazeel said :
Dragonkin, Demons(+ several dozen subspecies), Vyres, Mahjarrat, Elves(?), Naragi(?), Zarytes, Golems, Ga'al, Dragons, Phoenixes, Sea Slugs, Tzhaar (+a dozen subspecies), Tokhaar(+a dozen subspecies) and these are just the ones I know about. Many species I don't know how long they live at all.

They are long lived, but not as long lived as the gods (who pretty much can't die of natural causes).

Hazeel said :
And yet, if mortals can beat them, does that not prove that said mortals are even more of a threat? What of others like Hostilius, the Dragonkin...........Vorago?

They're the one percent. There's not really a whole lot that can beat a god. -

I have noticed your kind does tend to blindly stumble forward towards danger simply because it exists. What is your word for that?

- We call it being a hero.

04-Sep-2016 16:39:49 - Last edited on 04-Sep-2016 16:40:44 by AesirWarrior

Hazeel

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AesirWarrior said :
Hazeel said :
And yet, if mortals can beat them, does that not prove that said mortals are even more of a threat? What of others like Hostilius, the Dragonkin...........Vorago?

They're the one percent. There's not really a whole lot that can beat a god.

But aren't Gods also the 1%? I mean currently, out of the active Gods we have (T6 and above) 9 Gods. There are 11 (known) Kin + Vorago so....right now there are more God-leveled mortals on RS than actual Gods. Runescape doesn't need a hero...it needs a villain. An all encompassing force of evil that will remain ever-threatening and use chaos to make the peoples of Gielinor tolerate each other, grow strong together, and fight side by side against this evil. I am that villain.

04-Sep-2016 17:38:14

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Captain Lime

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Hazeel said :
AesirWarrior said :
Hazeel said :
And yet, if mortals can beat them, does that not prove that said mortals are even more of a threat? What of others like Hostilius, the Dragonkin...........Vorago?

They're the one percent. There's not really a whole lot that can beat a god.

But aren't Gods also the 1%? I mean currently, out of the active Gods we have (T6 and above) 9 Gods. There are 11 (known) Kin + Vorago so....right now there are more God-leveled mortals on RS than actual Gods.

You underestimate how many humans there are in the universe. Even when you combine all those immortal species several of them being only a few dozen in number, they are all barely nothing next to the size of humanity, not to mention however many dwarves, gnomes, goblins and so forth there are running around.

My biggest beef with the Godless right now is that they're okay with the likes of Vorago, and possibly Telos. Doesn't that completely go against their message? That the weak, when together, are able to overwhelm the strong and take back the world? That's why we need a godless quest (and I'd love to pair them off against the Order of Ascension). ^ "Some of those words were

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04-Sep-2016 17:42:29

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Quael

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Aig123 said :
And then those who take matters into their own hands, regardless of the cost. Nomad for example. Nomad isn't a good example as he isn't part, or aligned with the Godless. A better example is Kara-Meir, who believes that the Gods should be fought, and or killed, to remove them. Then we have those who are like Garlandia who believes that a more peaceful route is needed, and fighting should be for emergency only. They don't follow the Guthixian mindset, they only follow the goal, all the faction members does.
Aig123 said :
Would the Godless sit back and let the Vampyres march into Misthalin as they are independant and therefore legitimate. Yet they would raise their swords to the Red Axe, as they are Zamorakian? Something seems off. I don't really see the flaw of removing the gods, and their influence from Gielinor. The 5th age proved that everything was fine. And no we don't need to do that, just the Gods is the goal as they are more destructive, they want to return to the 5th age method of peace, where the gods weren't around. Plus, The Vampyre are no longer a threat, and that event took place in the 5th age, a time the Godless weren't around. As for the Red Axe, well if they are Zamorakian that are harming innocents life in the name of their god, then yes would do that, but they aren't a threat any more either.
Aig123 said :
I'm also curious as to what assets the Godless have. They are backed up now by the council of Astromancer. They probably gather their own resources and after 4 years probably can fund themselves. As also with the assets, The Godless were suppose to be heavily featured with invention, now it is unknown if they will have part of it at all. Even if they don't I am sure they are using the skill for their benefits. Vorago isn't an asset, he's just an ally that will only help is the anima is in trouble.

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04-Sep-2016 20:09:57

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Quael

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Captain Lime said :
Hazeel said :
AesirWarrior said :
Hazeel said :
And yet, if mortals can beat them, does that not prove that said mortals are even more of a threat? What of others like Hostilius, the Dragonkin...........Vorago?

They're the one percent. There's not really a whole lot that can beat a god.

But aren't Gods also the 1%? I mean currently, out of the active Gods we have (T6 and above) 9 Gods. There are 11 (known) Kin + Vorago so....right now there are more God-leveled mortals on RS than actual Gods.

You underestimate how many humans there are in the universe. Even when you combine all those immortal species several of them being only a few dozen in number, they are all barely nothing next to the size of humanity, not to mention however many dwarves, gnomes, goblins and so forth there are running around.

My biggest beef with the Godless right now is that they're okay with the likes of Vorago, and possibly Telos. Doesn't that completely go against their message? That the weak, when together, are able to overwhelm the strong and take back the world? That's why we need a godless quest (and I'd love to pair them off against the Order of Ascension).

Why wouldn't they be Ok with being like Vorago? Vorago himself is the Anima Mundi, being one with it, they'd have to be ok with the soul of the world, if not, it ruins the purpose of protecting Gielinor.

Their message is that mortals don't need the gods to protect themselves and that the gods are dangerous. Vorago is one proof of that as he isn't a god, he's a being created by the world. Protecting the anima from Tuska. The Godless are ok with beings that also wants to protect Gielinor from dangerous foe like Tuska. So overall it doesn't go against their message at all, you might be confusing with Bandosian, where the strong rules over the weak.

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04-Sep-2016 20:21:30

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God's can't be taken down so easily, except by other God's or extremely skilled mortals armed with godslaying weapons ( wich aren't easy to come by ).

An extremely skilled mortal can still be taken down by other skilled mortals, look at Drakan, Nomad or Lucien for example.
Extremely powerfull, but taken down nonetheless.

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04-Sep-2016 23:04:36

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