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Zack3

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Hguoh said :
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Hguoh said :
Angof Cywir said :
Zaros is not pro-life. He is a mad scientist who feels no remorse to beings that he openly tortures. I can see him openly performing eugenics and experimenting on humans and other races to get them to become "perfect." He even says his philosophy is all about self-improving, reaching one's highest potential, and to have mortals ascend to a master "perfect" race. In The Light Within, he says he wants to make the universe "perfect." Perfect. What does that even mean?!

Well this is the fastest example of Godwin's law I've ever seen.

Let me be clear: yes, Zaros is a sociopath, but that doesn't mean that he'd support a stupid idea like eugenics. Eugenics presupposes that some genetic traits are inherently more valuble than/superior to others, and completely ignores the inherent value in genetic variation and that some/most genetic traits have situational viability. So yeah even ignoring the ethical concerns, eugenics is an utterly stupid idea. And given Zaros has given up trying to force mortals to follow him and his ways (relying instead on them being willing to follow him) it would be nigh impossible to implement such a program (as it necessitates a wide adherence to the rules imposed).

Zaros's dog practices Eugenics though. Zaros is evil confirmed.

Ah, but only after Guthix uplifted him and made him a guardian of Guthix. Guthix is evil confirmed.

But wait, Guthix also tinkered with us. That must mean that we are evil as well.

Oh noes!!!

pfft no way I'm evil, I'm the nicest guy ever!!!!!
Now, excuse me while I systematically feed babies to highly mutated puppies!!!!! muahahahaha

09-Nov-2016 00:44:10

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Voraiya

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Quael said :
Zaros was made with no emotion. According to jmods, emotion was an alien, a new thing to him. When he created the Nihil he created them to save one race. Zaros really doesn't care what he did in the past, or show and kind of regrets for abandoning them. He is still a god with no emotion, learning what it is.

The reason why he only saved one...because..she was stronger and etc etc etc. That's the only reason why he bother to take her in under his wings..otherwise he would of just dump her too.

09-Nov-2016 02:14:26

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Voraiya

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@Angof Cywir

You can't say all that to Zaros. Why? You just piss off a lot of Zarosian fan boys if they see this thread. Can't you see? The Fan boys romanticize and fantasize Zaros AND they will deny any negative things about him.

Also, because of your thread Zarosian fan boys will instantly call you a Saradomin scum or something...and after that..it some how does to..you being a Donald Trump supporter.

I know because when I talk anything negative about Zaros....a lot of Zarosian fan boys are likely to first assume this,"Oh. you a Saradomin asshole." or something...and after that it leads to..."Fucking Trump supporter."

09-Nov-2016 02:22:10

Hguoh

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Voraiya said :
@Angof Cywir

You can't say all that to Zaros. Why? You just piss off a lot of Zarosian fan boys if they see this thread. Can't you see? The Fan boys romanticize and fantasize Zaros AND they will deny any negative things about him.

Also, because of your thread Zarosian fan boys will instantly call you a Saradomin scum or something...and after that..it some how does to..you being a Donald Trump supporter.

I know because when I talk anything negative about Zaros....a lot of Zarosian fan boys are likely to first assume this,"Oh. you a Saradomin asshole." or something...and after that it leads to..."Fucking Trump supporter."

The only person to bring up 'Saradomin scum' in this thread is you. And the only person who has even remotely denied that Zaros is a sociopath is Lethal.

The rest of the replies amount to 'of course he's a sociopath, you only realized this now?' and 'yes he's a sociopath, but the conclusions Angof has made based on that don't really hold water.'

09-Nov-2016 03:16:58 - Last edited on 09-Nov-2016 03:17:18 by Hguoh

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The Mather1

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Sociopathy isn't quite the right term. Sociopathy includes understanding but disregarding empathy. Zaros is just (extremely) autistic; he doesn't disregard empathy, he just doesn't feel it because of how his mind works.

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09-Nov-2016 05:42:29

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Lego Miester

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Zaros fans tend to infer way too much empathy into him. He is polarized to Seren, who is so emphatically emotional. Zaros is practical, and most importantly to you, says only what you need, or want, to hear.

I got a lot of salt on my headcanon thread for proposing Zaros would "convince the elder gods of the value of mortals" then proceed to go with them to remake the universe (bigger, better, mortalier!) while you're still living on it. But it doesn't contradict a single thing he's said. Headcanon Haven, where everything is made up and the points don't matter.
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09-Nov-2016 05:49:07 - Last edited on 09-Nov-2016 05:51:10 by Lego Miester

Hguoh

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Lego Miester said :
Zaros fans tend to infer way too much empathy into him. He is polarized to Seren, who is so emphatically emotional. Zaros is practical, and most importantly to you, says only what you need, or want, to hear.

I got a lot of salt on my headcanon thread for proposing Zaros would "convince the elder gods of the value of mortals" then proceed to go with them to remake the universe (bigger, better, mortalier!) while you're still living on it. But it doesn't contradict a single thing he's said.

The issue with remaking the universe to better include mortals next time is that you'd basically be disregarding the already incredibly widespread nature of mortals in this cycle as well as the inherent issues with trying to make a dinner prepared for four stretch far enough for an extra mouth and still allow them enough sustenance to go on and remake the universe before utilizing the Zaros's plans.

A far more pressing, and imo likely, concern would be the means by which and effects of draining anima from mortals, considering their current feeding method basically turns the planet they consume the anima of into a desolate wasteland. This means that Zaros's plan more than likely will result in a large loss of life throughout each and every plane and especially Gielinor. I find that unsavory, but preferable to simply allowing the Great Revision to go ahead unopposed.

09-Nov-2016 14:41:48 - Last edited on 09-Nov-2016 14:43:00 by Hguoh

Deltaslug

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But the Nihil was created FOR SCIENCE!!!!

We don't really know what level of empathy Zaros has.
He tinkered with the Nihil because he genuinely wanted to learn how to create life.
He gave his word to races like the Illujanka that he'd help them.

Despite all of his work, the bulk of the Nihil were failures. Not just "The Fallen".
Nex was an oddity or curiousity.
The others were certainly capable, but they weren't the result Zaros had planned for.

Maybe he considered that he could find a way to fix them later and correct his mistakes/failures once he found the solution or got the power to do so.

09-Nov-2016 14:50:38

Zack3

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Lego Miester said :
Zaros fans tend to infer way too much empathy into him. He is polarized to Seren, who is so emphatically emotional. Zaros is practical, and most importantly to you, says only what you need, or want, to hear.

I got a lot of salt on my headcanon thread for proposing Zaros would "convince the elder gods of the value of mortals" then proceed to go with them to remake the universe (bigger, better, mortalier!) while you're still living on it. But it doesn't contradict a single thing he's said.
I always thought it was obvious Zaros planed to give mortals as sacrifice to the elders in exchange of saving gielinor, I mean elders survive by consuming anima, zaros says living beings produce more anima, so zaros must plan to give mortals anima to the elders in exchange of them leaving gielinor exist, tbh I cant see elders consuming anima from living beings without killing them, have u seen what they did to freneskae?

09-Nov-2016 15:47:49

Dan-i-el

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Why would Zaros sacrifice everyone?
If anything, he'd promote mortal life, when he ascends to elder godhood, all he requires mortals to do is simply exist, to generate anima, which then goes into gielinor, which he siphons at a safe rate, as not to damage the planet, or any life on the planet.
If he sacrificed everyone, he'd only create more issues for himself further down the line.
(That is assuming, the elder gods end up being removed somehow, leaving only Zaros).

Besides, lacking emotion does not mean someone is evil, but we have also seen Zaros is not completely devoid of emotion, so, it's all good I guess.

09-Nov-2016 19:04:27

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