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SwedishPagns

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Angof Cywir said :
Also, I highly doubt they'd figure out how to reproduce, as the ritual to do so requires some weird dancing and stuff.

"Dancing."

Is that what they call it now?

Every race has figured out how reproduction works. Why should the Mahjarrat be any different? ·

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19-Dec-2016 06:15:43

Angof Cywir

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Cthris said :
From what I understood from the quest and various jmod quotes the mahjarrat were immortal before Seren introduced them to the rituals. They neither aged or were drained of their power. As long as they were not killed they were fine. Thus they have no reproduction.

Seren effectively stole their immortality. This is part of the reason they are so mad at her. Another thing that makes no sense is why couldn't she just sacrifice part of her own power? She is made from the same stuff as the Dreams of Mah. She didn't need to trick them into sacrificing themselves.

Again, without any intervention, Mah would have torn the planet apart. They would have most likely been killed during one of Mah's rampage or a Muspah invasion.

"For such times, I taught the tribes how to drain some of her energy and use it create more of their kind. It broke my heart to do this, but without some equilibrium, Mah will likely rip this planet apart. For all the power she instilled in me, I am powerless to help. " - Seren, FOTG

Also, I do not know why Seren did not sacrifice herself. She said she would if she could, but she just couldn't for some reason.

"You know it’s not my choice. If I could end my power, I would." - Seren, TLW

I submissively obey Lady Seren's every whim and relish every waking moment willingly serving her. She is my mistress and I am nothing without her. I am without thought, self-awareness, and being without her. She is my everything.

19-Dec-2016 06:19:57

Angof Cywir

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SwedishPagns said :
Angof Cywir said :
Also, I highly doubt they'd figure out how to reproduce, as the ritual to do so requires some weird dancing and stuff.

"Dancing."

Is that what they call it now?

Every race has figured out how reproduction works. Why should the Mahjarrat be any different?

I do not know the inner mechanisms of how Mahjarrat reproduce. I just know they do not mate and reproduce like we do. It requires some power-siphon from some source.

""For such times, I taught the tribes how to drain some of her energy and use it create more of their kind. It broke my heart to do this, but without some equilibrium, Mah will likely rip this planet apart. For all the power she instilled in me, I am powerless to help. " - Seren, FOTG

I submissively obey Lady Seren's every whim and relish every waking moment willingly serving her. She is my mistress and I am nothing without her. I am without thought, self-awareness, and being without her. She is my everything.

19-Dec-2016 06:22:09

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Cthris

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Angof Cywir said :
Cthris said :
From what I understood from the quest and various jmod quotes the mahjarrat were immortal before Seren introduced them to the rituals. They neither aged or were drained of their power. As long as they were not killed they were fine. Thus they have no reproduction.

Seren effectively stole their immortality. This is part of the reason they are so mad at her. Another thing that makes no sense is why couldn't she just sacrifice part of her own power? She is made from the same stuff as the Dreams of Mah. She didn't need to trick them into sacrificing themselves.

Again, without any intervention, Mah would have torn the planet apart. They would have most likely been killed during one of Mah's rampage or a Muspah invasion.

"For such times, I taught the tribes how to drain some of her energy and use it create more of their kind. It broke my heart to do this, but without some equilibrium, Mah will likely rip this planet apart. For all the power she instilled in me, I am powerless to help. " - Seren, FOTG

Also, I do not know why Seren did not sacrifice herself. She said she would if she could, but she just couldn't for some reason.

"You know it’s not my choice. If I could end my power, I would." - Seren, TLW

She's a tier 2 god. If she really cared about them she could have moved them to a safer planet....

Also that quote is not relevant. In that context she's talking about her ability to make beings love her. I'm talking about her physical makeup of divine energy.

19-Dec-2016 06:29:42

SwedishPagns

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Sepulchre said :
There's no real reason to hate her at this point in time, unless you're a huge Mahjarrat sympathetic, in which case you may still hate her for driving them to near extinction. On the other hand the competition that takes place over not wanting to be the sacrifice DID cause the Mahjarrat race to become stronger as a whole.
So that's a plus.

That's exactly why I hate her.

And the race of Mahjarrat is stronger "thanks" to the Rituals but now their numbers are so low, they'll never recover with just one female.

I'd rather have the Mahjarrats numerous again. ·

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19-Dec-2016 06:29:45

Ancient Drew

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SwedishPagns said :
Sepulchre said :
There's no real reason to hate her at this point in time, unless you're a huge Mahjarrat sympathetic, in which case you may still hate her for driving them to near extinction. On the other hand the competition that takes place over not wanting to be the sacrifice DID cause the Mahjarrat race to become stronger as a whole.
So that's a plus.

That's exactly why I hate her.

And the race of Mahjarrat is stronger "thanks" to the Rituals but now their numbers are so low, they'll never recover with just one female.

I'd rather have the Mahjarrats numerous again. Nope, you hate her because she decided to go against Zaros. Well so did Zamorak and Sliske, and they both tried to kill him, something Seren wouldn't do. Prepare for hell on RuneScape in Naval Cataclysm!

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19-Dec-2016 06:35:00

Angof Cywir

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They would have all been extinct without her rituals. There was NO other way. The end. The planet would have been torn asunder were it not for Seren's rituals to quell Mah.

Also, I'm pretty sure if Seren did decided to drain all Mah's powers into the Mahjarrat, she would have required that special energy-pillar ritual marker that I'm pretty sure only Mah could make, which might also explain why Zaros never took all the Mahjarrat back to Freneskae during the Zarosian empire era when he has the chance to finish Mah off.

Lastly, is it so bad to care about your mother? To want to save her, despite all your other family members giving up? At least Seren wasn't some spoiled kid, thinking they were ready to face on the world, while letting their mom rot sick in some retirement home.

I submissively obey Lady Seren's every whim and relish every waking moment willingly serving her. She is my mistress and I am nothing without her. I am without thought, self-awareness, and being without her. She is my everything.

19-Dec-2016 06:43:27 - Last edited on 19-Dec-2016 06:48:13 by Angof Cywir

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Cthris

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Angof Cywir said :
They would have all been extinct without her rituals. There was NO other way. The end. The planet would have been torn asunder were it not for Seren's rituals to quell Mah.

Like I said, they wouldn't be at risk if Seren moved the Dreams of Mah to a different planet. It doesn't matter if Mah ripped apart the planet because they didn't even have to be there.

And again, she could have given up part of the divine energy that is a part of her to quell Mah.

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Lastly, is it so bad to care about your mother? To want to save her, despite all your other family members giving up? At least Seren wasn't some spoiled kid, thinking they were ready to face on the world, while letting their mom rot sick in some retirement home.

Yeah, your argument goes out the window when you consider the fact that in order to save her mother she killed many of her other family members.... Why is one family member worth more than all the other family members?

and no you're right, she didn't let her mum rot in a retirement home. She killed her instead.

19-Dec-2016 06:51:31 - Last edited on 19-Dec-2016 06:59:19 by Cthris

Angof Cywir

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Cthris said :
Angof Cywir said :
They would have all been extinct without her rituals. There was NO other way. The end. The planet would have been torn asunder were it not for Seren's rituals to quell Mah.

Like I said, they wouldn't be at risk if Seren moved the Dreams of Mah to a different planet. It doesn't matter if Mah ripped apart the planet because they didn't even have to be there.

And again, she could have given up part of the divine energy that is a part of her to quell Mah.

She doesn't have enough power to transport all those Mahjarrat. Not even Zaros could do that. That is why Zaros had to kill a God to get those few demons on Gielinor. Why I don't why Seren sacrificed herself to quell Mah is beyond me. I guess she assumed it would have been pointless, seeing how sacrificing her other children would only quell her for a while.

I submissively obey Lady Seren's every whim and relish every waking moment willingly serving her. She is my mistress and I am nothing without her. I am without thought, self-awareness, and being without her. She is my everything.

19-Dec-2016 07:03:02

Angof Cywir

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"Yeah, your argument goes out the window when you consider the fact that in order to save her mother she killed many of her other family members.... Why is one family member worth more than all the other family members?"

Seren thought they were pointless apparitions of her nightmares like the Muspah.

Anyway, she did not no any better. She was born without a moral compass, until she met the compassionate elves.

I submissively obey Lady Seren's every whim and relish every waking moment willingly serving her. She is my mistress and I am nothing without her. I am without thought, self-awareness, and being without her. She is my everything.

19-Dec-2016 07:06:54 - Last edited on 19-Dec-2016 07:09:29 by Angof Cywir

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