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Omegametroi0

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when it comes to Zanaris and the fact it is the nexus that connects the world I do agree that is not a elder god artifact. that being said Zanaris its self the fairy rings and their power and the life that is Zanaris I do have to say come from something that is what I think the elder god item is not Zanaris but what makes Zanaris the way it is.
also with the stone of jas it leaks magic constantly (now i have a personal thought on that I will address later on in the post) pouring out magic and is used to create life and runes. what about the inhabitants in Zanaris the fairy queen is connect to plant life (ie crops) that is would be a form of creation as it is something that creates and maintains life which would fit in with the Stone of Jas and what seems at this point in time to be another one The elder Kiln. another thing in regards to leaking of magic since when do you any where get turned MAGICALLY in to random things i would say if a elder god item was the source of Zanaris's power that would be a pretty big hint that something magical and powerful resides there.
now for the stone of jas which leaks magic constantly i dont know about any of you all but if something is leaking constantly usually means it is not functioning at full capacity ( a water pipe) what I wonder is why is it leaking what caused it to leak or who caused it to leak? who caused it i say guthix caused it to leak magic why do you think he has stayed "asleep" this entire time trying to figure out a way to fix the stone of jas before the elder gods come after him/her/....it for breaking there stuff
"now guthix this is why we cant have nice stuff..."

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25-Nov-2012 20:27:59 - Last edited on 25-Nov-2012 20:30:23 by Omegametroi0

Sabthz
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Though the Staff of Armadyl is definitely an artifact belonging to the god Armadyl, I don't think it's one of the all powerful "Elder Artifacts."
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At the end of RotM, the Dragonkin snap the staff in half and stab Lucien with it, killing him on the spot. Assuming the "Elder Artifacts" would be equal in power, and that the Dragonkin share the power of the Stone of Jas, I don't think that they should have been able to destroy the staff so easily if it was an "Elder Artifact." Also, the orb from the stop of the staff was shattered into 100 shards that are used to make an Orb of Armadyl which is used to make an Armadyl Battlestaff. If Jagex wanted to reintroduce the Staff of Armadyl in a later quest, they would probably have to take this item away from players.
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25-Nov-2012 21:32:06

Balustan

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@Omegametroi0 I am inclined to say the theory has at least some degree of possibility but really we don't know what makes Zanaris like Zanaris therefore it could not be put on the list.
@Castle Siege Well yes it is one of the ones I am most unsure of. Sure it could be one and a simple lack of power next to the stone is really no reason it isn't as the Kiln doesn't seem to leak magic like the stone and while the TokHaar were made from it they were not created to guard it like the Kin to the stone. However it is incredibly unlikely that it is one.
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26-Nov-2012 00:37:07 - Last edited on 26-Nov-2012 00:37:27 by Balustan

Alchimous
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The staff wasn't destroyed, just the orb. The orb could have been added by Armadyl to make it seem his. "There is no Good or Evil, no Light or Dark, Order or Chaos. Just knowledge and your own ability to know when to stop. And if you knew when to stop, you'd never achieve the impossible."

30-Nov-2012 05:32:20

Balustan

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Interestingly I think the opposite that the orb wasn't his if anything and that the staff was his. A staff is simple to make and it still has power alone according to the guardians it could have been made by a younger god like Armadyl.
The orb is where its true power came from so possibly it was the part that was made by an elder god.
I had never considered this before.
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30-Nov-2012 09:02:08

Alchimous
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Other way around. The orb was the one part of the staff that showed it as aligned to Armadyl. It could be the staff itself was created by an Elder God, but the orb was Armadyl, to harness it's power? "There is no Good or Evil, no Light or Dark, Order or Chaos. Just knowledge and your own ability to know when to stop. And if you knew when to stop, you'd never achieve the impossible."

01-Dec-2012 22:18:51

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TokHaar-Hok: The younglings you mortals glorify as deities... They are merely corporeal beings, of one kind of another, who have abused our master's artefacts to ascend to a higher state of being. They have stolen their power, and are unworthy of your worship.

TokHaar-Hok: Our masters forged many powerful artefacts of creation. The TokHaar are one such artefact. You may have heard of another... the Stone of Jas.

So, to amend your "Elder Kiln" section... The Elder Kiln is not an Elder Artefact. The TokHaar themselves/itself are/is this Artefact.

06-Dec-2012 20:15:36

Balustan

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I swear that dialogue was not there yesterday. I somewhat still think it is the Kiln that is the artefact as the TokHaar are creations of the Kiln or perhaps they seem themselves as one with the Kiln.
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06-Dec-2012 22:50:11

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