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Soraz Drakyl
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Soraz Drakyl

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The Shield of Arrav was from another world, and it's currently unknown to be created by the Elder Gods. The only known protectors were the Imcando Dwarves, a race created by Guthix.
Armadyl is not entirely considered an Elder God, since we don't know his origins (did anyone but me think Armadyl was a woman before knowing?); but now that it's destroyed, and we obtain a battlestaff of it, not much to it but discovering such origins.
The Frostenhorn once guraded by an Ice Demon in the frozen fortress of Ghorrock, origins unknown. Before it was found by the Fremennik, left it but thought it had power over ice; its true ability is that of magnifying power. The true name is of terrible sound we wouldn't bear.
The Barrows Icon was recently guarded by the Barrows Brothers, and the creator of an unknown deity is how it's examined. Perhaps Zarosian made, or a gift to Zaros. It was also once more powerful before as far as Azzanadra remembers. Carries dead adventurers prayers, a containment of holy powers.
The Relic is Zarosian property, stolen by Saradominists and vandalized with his mark. It is of holy power as Azzanadra described, which entirely works with the other two items for The Temple at Senntisten.
The World Gate was used for the humans to enter Gielinor from another world, as discovered during Making/Meeting History. The first god that was met was Guthix.
Considering some of these made by Elder Gods, hard to pin down.
12/4/17:
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07-Nov-2012 02:41:51

Balustan

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@Le Dragon26 I agree there are only 2 I consider 100% tight. It is possibly the Staff of Armadyl was gotten hold of by Armadyl and renamed like the Fist of Guthix or Eye of Saradomin.
Shield of Arrav could be we dunno.
Frostenhorn again could be we dunno.
I thought the barrows icon was more powerful now because it had absorbed so much prayer energy while at the barrows. All I know is it was in the past used to communicate with Zaros presumably in the 3rd age and again today.
Yes I agree the relic is Zarosian property but whether it always was so who knows.
The World Gate was not used to bring humans into the world that was the portal of life. The elves came in through the World Gate which was closed and cut them off from their crystal supplies. Also it was used by the Kethsians to enter other worlds.
I realise they are not necessarily created by elder gods but I feel that is because we have absolutely no evidence of elder god artefacts at all.
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07-Nov-2012 09:50:54

Baxtorian
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we became aware that the Elder Gods created artefacts to aid in the creation of the plane, Gielinor.
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That's why we are hearing that the Soul Altar is the Mahjarrat Ritual marker. NO! WE HAVE NOT BECOMME AWARE OF THAT! WE BECAME AWARE THEY USED THE ARTEFACTS, NOT THAT THEY CREATED THEM!
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Zamorak wouldn't have survived long enough without it to be quite honest. Also the Dragonkin did go for him except he was banished before they could get to him and destroy him.
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Again, no evidence, all guesswork. We know Zamorak used it. However, Wahisietel says "it's not the first time a Mahjarrat abused the stone and yet the life goes on", or something along those lines, it seems they were repelled somehow, also, note how even with Lucien dead the Kin assaulted Edgy, I find it hard to believe they would stay on Gielinor instead of chasing Zam.
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The Stone of Jas powered up Zamorak enough to stand in a fight against Zaros. It helped him attain Godhood. Lucien intended the same.
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Movario considers that to have been used much later, after the fight. He was quite accurate, wasn't he?
Also, why would the World Gate be an artefact? Do You consider the Rift one too?
The Kiln seems a likely possibility. But given how the Stone had been introduced all those years ago, how all the main RS plot is based on it, it doesn't seem likely to me it was introduced by a second quest in a not-so-to-discuss quests, does it to You?
TTaS items, do they seem powerful enough to Ya? Azzanadra was over the years being created to have been the most powerful Mahjarrat, Zem's notes being clear proof of that. He owned 3 of those items. Do You then consider them to have enough power to work like they have for Zamorak?
The Staff, I don't think it belonged to an Elder, at least, we've been only shown how it was used for destruction, not creation. The Shield, maybe, it's otherworldy etc but isn't it kinda weak too?
The Kiln is the only thing with similar power and theme, disagree about rest.

07-Nov-2012 13:34:29

Balustan

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@Baxtorian Part of me wants to consider that all the items other than the stone are weaker. Also they specifically state Jas likely created the stone on the lorestream. Also they created the kiln so they created the 2 I consider to be 100% Elder Artefacts.
Ah but the difference is this time the kin want to hurt us as well by harming the world. Last time they simply would have wanted to kill Zamorak I guess. I accept this is mostly guesswork. When he left he was banished by the gods themselves. It is possible the kin could not follow. Like how Zaros despite still being powerful cannot get back here from whichever plane he currently exists in.
Well considering the tale of the Dragon Riders Zamorak couldn't have used it afterwards cause he disappeared the next morning and then from ROTM we know Saradomin hid it.
The rift is not a physical object or at least I doubt it is. I expect it to be like Ork's Rift. The World Gate I consider a physical gate though, both Seren and the Kethsians used it. It links planes together. Possibly because that is how the Elder Gods went from plane to plane during creation?
I do not think the kiln will be a main plot. In fact as you compare my list of significanct points for each the kiln is very insignificant compared to the stone plus it is relatively unknown. I am simply pointing out that it is indeed an artefact.
TTaS do not seem that powerful to me either. I believe the relic and the barrows icon to be the weakest and were possibly a single artefact at one point since they work well in conjunction. The Frostenhorn amplifies any power though so possibly an artefact of great power.
The staff I do not think so either but it can destroy as well as be used to create dead or transfer power.
The shield is strong to almost any magical attack. I do not know what purpose it would have in creating the world though. I believe this is the most likely besides the kiln and stone.
Anyway I know this is all very theoretical with little proof.
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07-Nov-2012 14:15:50

Balustan

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@Alezandir No the Mahjarrat built that themselves not the Elder Gods else it would have been considered. I had considered the portal of life too originally but that was created by Guthix.
The thing is there is very little evidence to support the few I do have listed and there are things which could be artefacts but we have absolutely no reason to believe they are. The mysterious statues for instance Mark refused to tell us who built them but they could be artefacts we just havn't seen them do anything yet.
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07-Nov-2012 14:18:27

Baxtorian
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With the Kiln, there is little but something; with the rest, sorry but I outlined the reasons for disagreeing.
I still have to see the SoA being used for anything but destruction.
I am saddened by what they made there. They made the Stone, which has been a central point of most of lore, just one of the many things. Soon, I believe the Elder Gods would be shown, then all the elusiveness that's drawing imagination and excitement to them will be as gone as is Zaros's reveal with things such as a quest completed with Digsite req(FC).

07-Nov-2012 15:03:05

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