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Azros
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We know there is more than 1 Elder god as they clearly say "GOD'S" Implying more than 1....
Jas - He created the stone
As for the Elder kiln i doubt it being an elder god artifact as when Guthix arrived this plane was empty.....nothing ...he created the land and the seas.... so it's likely he created the elder kiln.
The Shield of Arrav - We know it was created in a different world/plane as it's stated "it was clearly not of this world" and has great defense against all magical powers, a way to protect ourselves from the stone?
The Staff of Armadyl - We know Armadyl owned it...however....there is no knowledge of who created it or where it came from it's name is purely giving because it belonged to the god Armadyl.... much like the SOJ and SOA it has magical and defensive ability's.
The Frostenhorn - We know Azzandra knows alot about this item as it magnifies power and as he mentions mortals cannot bear to hear its name in it's original language so it could of came from Freneskae as that world's language is deadly to our mortal ears.
The Barrows Icon - Has power over prayer....that's all we know...however Azzandra knows more about it.....so its possible its Mahjarrat created or Zaros origin
The Relic - Likely zaros origin due to what Azzandra says about the saradomist mark on it.
The World Gate - likely Seren created it as the only known races to have passed through it are the Elves - led by Seren and the people of Kethis which 1 mage returned to Kethis with the SOJ.
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10-Nov-2012 12:08:20

Balustan

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@Azlordros Apparently Guthix was lying about the plane being empty. J Mods confirmed that a while ago. Guthix simply populated it. The TokHaar were here before Guthix arrived. It is an elder god artefact if you consider the definition of one as I do to be something the elder gods created that also helped them create the world.
I dunno if Seren likely created the World Gate the way it is said is Seren led them through it unlike Guthix who created the portal of life to bring the humans through it.
The Frostenhorn I am unsure of the relic and barrows icon I think are Zarosian in origin too but I thought best to include them.
@Baxtorian yeah he's right it's any magic. The Mahjarrat thing was just because of the series it's in and people got confused.
@Alezandir ROTM FAQ. I think it was Paul Gower than confirmed that they built it upon arrival to the plane. They built it out of the way to not be disturbed.
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10-Nov-2012 16:10:03 - Last edited on 10-Nov-2012 16:11:23 by Balustan

Soraz Drakyl
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Hmm, I still wonder about Guthix's origins. When the Elder Gods pretty much took a break from continuing to build Gielinor (another name they called it, don't know yet), Guthix then shows up and very likely finished with the Stone of Jas. He used the Stone of Jas, yet the Dragonkin didn't stop him, never showed up. Why?
Do you think maybe, like the Dragonkin, Guthix was made from the Stone as well? That would be a twist and very well thought observation, as to why there are those saying he's not male nor female. (Yeah, those terms are better to use.)
It's like saying Guthix is actually the Elder Gods' child, a start-up of a new generation. Yet, there's the others that come to mind...
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10-Nov-2012 22:42:00

DiamondGreen

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I reckon le dragon might have a point there. It seems plausible that the Elder Gods shaped Gielinor and created Guthix to fill it with life. If I'm not mistaken the only thing Guthix did with the Stone is create magic. Everything else could be his own power, no?

11-Nov-2012 12:27:37

Nightgunner
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Here are my thoughts on Elder Artifacts. I presented an idea similar to this in the Scryer's chat earlier today, and there was another discussion a day or two ago.
After thinking it over, I do not think most of the items listed are Elder Artifacts. Why? Well, I think there are certain traits that define the artefacts, based on what we know of the Stone and the Kiln (and really, I don't see how it's possible that the Kiln ISN'T an artifact)
Firstly, each artifact serves a very specific purpose. the Elder Kiln was used to create TzHaar (which, by extension, created mountains). The Stone of Jas is a powerful artifact that leaks magic - it doesn't do anything else.
Secondly, both of the artifacts also have a race of creatures linked to them - the Elder Kiln has the TzHaar, while the Stone has the Dragonkin.
Now, if we assume that this theory is right for a moment, I can add another possible artifact to the list - the entirety of Zanaris. Zanaris is a unique place that serves as the nexus of all known worlds; this would be it's purpose as an artifact. It also has a race tied to it, the fairies.
Any thoughts on this?

11-Nov-2012 13:38:36 - Last edited on 11-Nov-2012 13:41:04 by Nightgunner

DiamondGreen

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The first thought is that Zanaris is too big to be an artefact, but I doubt we share that perspective with the Elder Gods. It's a very clever observation, I think carrying some weight in the fact that Zanaris (the nexus linking worlds) is clearly different from the Abyss (the space between worlds).

11-Nov-2012 14:40:44

Balustan

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@Nightgunner We know there were other races but in the Elder Kiln FAQ it was stated that they are likely extinct which opens up the possibility of other artefacts. Also in the lorestream they said many artefacts and that the younger gods were looking for them so I think this remains a possibility.
Zanaris itself perhaps but I originally thought of the portal that the fairy rings took the magic from for teleportation purposes. However this was essentially why I decided to include the world gate since it has the possibility to go straight to other worlds and is presumably a structure of some kind instead of having to hop to one world and into another.
@Alezandir The abyss is an interesting one for they say it is the space between worlds but that doesn't seem like the case to me. You can travel to pocket dimensions seemingly created by Gielinorians but you cannot switch worlds. You can obviously use it to teleport anywhere on Runescape but can you use it to get to another world? Therefore I doubt it is the space between worlds as the Void seems to fit that description instead.
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11-Nov-2012 15:08:11

DiamondGreen

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From what I understand of the lore the Void is different.
Imagine the game's cosmology as a 4D orange, where each world (Gielinor****-biusk, Freneskae etc.) are segments of the orange. Zanaris would be in the middle, the stalk perhaps.
I'd relate the Abyss to that weird pale stringy stuff between the segments. It links all the segments to eachother, in a way that differs to the middle, Zanaris.
On the other hand, the Void is the peel. The outside of the orange. It is beyond worlds as the Abyss is between them.
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11-Nov-2012 15:20:18

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