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Cthris
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Zamorak would have nothing to lose from gaining Godhood unlike the others. Apparently Mahjarrat don't have an afterlife, so it's not like he's giving that up.

was it ever said they don't have a after life? I know mod Jack has said demons most likely don't but i don't recall them saying mahjarrat don't. I wouldn't be surprized if they didn't though

12-May-2014 02:21:33

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Zamorak would have nothing to lose from gaining Godhood unlike the others. Apparently Mahjarrat don't have an afterlife, so it's not like he's giving that up.

was it ever said they don't have a after life? I know mod Jack has said demons most likely don't but i don't recall them saying mahjarrat don't. I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't though

It was never said. A case CAN be made for or against Mahjarrat having an afterlife. But nothing is confirmed.

I assuming there are rules for whether or not someone gets an afterlife. Based on whatever Jack said about the demons (Which I'd like to point out can't be confirmed) makes me think that whatever the criteria are for an afterlife. Gods don't fill it, or enough of them, Possibly demons as well. I'm just spit-balling here based on what you said Jack said (Which CAN'T be confirmed) but it could be plausible. Think before posting, and if you can't think then don't post.

12-May-2014 03:52:49

Crondis

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These beings don't necessarily know about their lack of afterlife however.

No, the Mahjarrat don't necessarily have to know anything about their afterlife, or their lack of. However, they do say that they "face the void" when sacrificed at a ritual.

That doesn't exactly sound like a peaceful afterlife, but more of an eternal nothing. So they have some inkling of what occurs after they die or after sacrificed. Crondis, mightiest God of the Kharidian Desert!

12-May-2014 13:21:30

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Fot* quest - spoilers ahead!



Mahjarrats not having an afterlife does not come simply from a statement of a jmod outside the game, but rather from Seren's second memoriam crystal (entitled 'Dreams')

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Whenever lucid, Mah cries out for Zaros. I do what I can to comfort her, but that is not much. What Zaros saw as her controlling us, I see as her protecting us... and now it is my turn to protect her. She sleeps more than anything these days, and her dreams manifest - they are pale imitations of Zaros and myself, their bodies not even formed entirely of crystal. They are a waste of what little energy she clings to . Perhaps I can find some way to return their power back to her, if only to keep her lucid. Some make pilgrimages up the volcano to Mah, calling themselves her children. I pose as her to warn them off. I intend to visit them in this guise. If they are so in awe of her, then they might sacrifice their own energy to restore her.

From that memory from Seren, you may conclude that the mahjarrats were created in the same way of Zaros or Seren - as deities, just much much weaker than those two first ones.

Them being deities since birth would have them not be able to access afterlife.

12-May-2014 23:03:17 - Last edited on 12-May-2014 23:05:11 by Pupppy

Luseda

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The above is simultaneously wonderful beyond words and a total tragedy.

And something I hope Zaros will do something about. You've got plans, what exactly are they? Of course, I will feel incredibly silly if Zaros' plans for him start and finish with exactly what he's told the player (Elder Halls and all that Jas).

Either way, yes, that is the theory I subscribe to. They don't have afterlives because they're minor gods.

EDIT: Just to clarify, I'm not convinced Zaros could do anything about the "lack of afterlife" issue in and of itself. Minor godhood is a very compromising place to be for a creature: lacking the power of a higher-tiered god and the after-life of a mortal. Kind of a "worst of both worlds" situation. Azzanadra deserves better.

12-May-2014 23:33:44 - Last edited on 12-May-2014 23:43:20 by Luseda

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'her dreams manifest' - That sounds similar to the Muspah. So, unless you want to argue that the Muspah are also gods... I would say the Mahjarrat aren't.

I think the confirmation is actually the crystal part, not the dreams. Because their heads' smaller crystals are the same as Seren's and Zaros's bodies.

13-May-2014 02:01:04 - Last edited on 13-May-2014 02:03:08 by Pupppy

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